You know, one of the things I notice about Java adherents: they think programming is hard. There's this weird conservativeness to their culture. The only times

You know, one of the things I notice about Java adherents: they think programming is hard. There's this weird conservativeness to their culture. The only times I've worked on Java teams, I felt like the biggest hurdle was convincing people that things could actually be done. Its like they're convinced that every programmer sucks. I don't even hate java the language. It's far too mediocre to even bother to hate. I just dislike java the community. It's so depressing.