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STDs don't all require sex in order to transmit. Consider Human cytomegalovirus, in the herpes family. http://www.cdc.gov/cmv/overview.html http://www.cdc.gov/

by dalke 12y ago

STDs don't all require sex in order to transmit. Consider Human cytomegalovirus, in the herpes family. http://www.cdc.gov/cmv/overview.html http://www.cdc.gov/cmv/overview.html says that "Among every 100 adults in the United States, 50–80 are infected with CMV by the time they are 40 years old." Elsewhere the CDC says "The virus is generally passed from infected people to others through direct contact with body fluids, such as urine, saliva, or breast milk." and "If a woman is infected with CMV before becoming pregnant, the risk of passing the virus to her fetus is about 1 in 100." and "For pregnant women, the two most common exposures to CMV are through sexual contact and through contact with the urine and saliva of young children with CMV infection." In other words, kissing is a possible vector, as is breast feeding, and changing a baby's wet diaper. And that's only one STD virus. So no, the chance is not almost zero, even excluding joshbaptiste's observation.

adrianlmm 12y ago
I know the facts, but the statement makes it look like we should just relax and embrace it "Oh, you know, the stats say you are gonna get it anyway", not in my experience.
- dalke 12y ago
  You know the facts but are still willing to say wrong things? That doesn't speak well of your commenting style. The immediately preceding line was "Yet most people don't know about how common viral STDs actually are". Not "you're going to get it" but "people have it already."
  - adrianlmm 12y ago
    > You know the facts but are still willing to say wrong things? What wrong things? > "Yet most people don't know about how common viral STDs actually are". Of course, there is a lot of missinformation, still, how does that contradict my statement? > Not "you're going to get it" but "people have it already." Well exactly, but my statement was the not promiscuous have almost cero possibility, not that they won't get it. >That doesn't speak well of your commenting style Neather of your comprehension abilities.
    - dalke 12y ago
      The statement "if you are not promiscuous then your chances of getting an STD virus are near zero" is wrong. It is wrong because 1) even if you only have sex with one other person, that other person might have one or more STDs, 2) viral STDs are passed by more than sex; babies can get an STD congenitally, and STDs can be passed through other fluids including kissing, and it can be passed through blood transfusion and needle sharing, 3) those who are raped can get an STD even though they have never otherwise had sex. About 80-90% of American adults have herpes simplex type-1. It can be passed by kissing, sharing toothbrushes or utensils, etc. Many people carry the virus and don’t even know it. (See https://www.health.arizona.edu/health_topics/sexual_health/kissing.htm https://www.health.arizona.edu/health_topics/sexual_health/k... as one of many sources.) So no. Even someone who has followed a vow of chastity and has never had sex still has a not-near-zero chance of having a viral STD. To be more precise you'll need to quantify what promiscuous means. Certainly for someone with 4 or so sex partners in their life - by nearly all measures this is not promiscuous - do not have an "almost zero possibility" of having a viral STD.
      - adrianlmm 12y ago
        I guess you are right in that part, but, the article is talking about condoms, hence, sexual relantionships, not kissing, not clothing, that is the context, my comment is also in that context, see that?
        Nursie 12y ago
        Except it's still wrong. You have a large, non-zero chance of having sex with someone who has been exposed to these STDs, even if they were celibate until they met you.
        adrianlmm 12y ago
        exposed? sure, as using a public bathroom, who doesn't? contained? that's another story.
- readme 12y ago
  There are numerous strains of HPV which are completely asymptomatic and it is not economical or usual for doctors to even test for these strains. If you've had sex, there's a good chance you carry it. Same with cold sores. If you've ever eaten at a restaurant, shared silverware, or been kissed by someone, there's a damn good chance you have the virus. Oh but "You've never had a cold sore." Yeah, most of the time they're asymptomatic, too.

by dalke 12y ago

adrianlmm 12y ago

I know the facts, but the statement makes it look like we should just relax and embrace it "Oh, you know, the stats say you are gonna get it anyway", not in my experience.

dalke 12y ago
You know the facts but are still willing to say wrong things? That doesn't speak well of your commenting style. The immediately preceding line was "Yet most people don't know about how common viral STDs actually are". Not "you're going to get it" but "people have it already."
- adrianlmm 12y ago
  > You know the facts but are still willing to say wrong things? What wrong things? > "Yet most people don't know about how common viral STDs actually are". Of course, there is a lot of missinformation, still, how does that contradict my statement? > Not "you're going to get it" but "people have it already." Well exactly, but my statement was the not promiscuous have almost cero possibility, not that they won't get it. >That doesn't speak well of your commenting style Neather of your comprehension abilities.
  - dalke 12y ago
    The statement "if you are not promiscuous then your chances of getting an STD virus are near zero" is wrong. It is wrong because 1) even if you only have sex with one other person, that other person might have one or more STDs, 2) viral STDs are passed by more than sex; babies can get an STD congenitally, and STDs can be passed through other fluids including kissing, and it can be passed through blood transfusion and needle sharing, 3) those who are raped can get an STD even though they have never otherwise had sex. About 80-90% of American adults have herpes simplex type-1. It can be passed by kissing, sharing toothbrushes or utensils, etc. Many people carry the virus and don’t even know it. (See https://www.health.arizona.edu/health_topics/sexual_health/kissing.htm https://www.health.arizona.edu/health_topics/sexual_health/k... as one of many sources.) So no. Even someone who has followed a vow of chastity and has never had sex still has a not-near-zero chance of having a viral STD. To be more precise you'll need to quantify what promiscuous means. Certainly for someone with 4 or so sex partners in their life - by nearly all measures this is not promiscuous - do not have an "almost zero possibility" of having a viral STD.
    - adrianlmm 12y ago
      I guess you are right in that part, but, the article is talking about condoms, hence, sexual relantionships, not kissing, not clothing, that is the context, my comment is also in that context, see that?
      - Nursie 12y ago
        Except it's still wrong. You have a large, non-zero chance of having sex with someone who has been exposed to these STDs, even if they were celibate until they met you.
        adrianlmm 12y ago
        exposed? sure, as using a public bathroom, who doesn't? contained? that's another story.
readme 12y ago
There are numerous strains of HPV which are completely asymptomatic and it is not economical or usual for doctors to even test for these strains. If you've had sex, there's a good chance you carry it. Same with cold sores. If you've ever eaten at a restaurant, shared silverware, or been kissed by someone, there's a damn good chance you have the virus. Oh but "You've never had a cold sore." Yeah, most of the time they're asymptomatic, too.