It's not so much that pg has a different definition of 'meanness', it's that he has a broader notion of 'success'. If we define successful as playing the capit

It's not so much that pg has a different definition of 'meanness', it's that he has a broader notion of 'success'. If we define successful as playing the capitalist game well, then sure, Steve Jobs, Zuckerberg, Gates, Ellison and others are all successful because they were sufficiently ruthless. Yet this too is selection bias, as there will surely be plenty of examples in the intersection of "people who don't fit pg's thesis" and "rewarded by society". There are, however, counter-examples: Warren Buffet comes to mind. Just because something is rewarded by society doesn't automatically mean it is good. In fact, if you can succeed at capitalism and not be a dick, seems to me that's an even rarer thing to do, and all the more respect for doing it. In light of the current state of society, it seems a good idea to re-examine what society happens to reward. We'll never know if Steve Jobs and others were/are truly happy. In fact, in a certain light, Jobs wasn't successful. For all his money, he happens to be rather dead. Who knows what truly great things he could have done after a successful battle with cancer. Every time Jobs is mentioned, until he fades from public view, people will talk about his storied career, his reinvention of Apple, his vision, etc. Everyone will also mention that he was an ass and died too young, because he couldn't get out of his own way and seek proper medical care soon enough. Given that we all operate in contemporary society, there is of course a place for being assertive and ruthless when one needs to. But PG / Ycombinator is starting to tweak his/their definition of success. In 200, 500 or 1000 years, will anyone remember Loopt? Not likely. But if a YC company successfully develops a fusion reactor the size of a shipping container, or successfully develops a cure for HIV/AIDS, and does something truly great, then YC will still be talked about for quite a long time. Much like how we still talk about Archimedes today.