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If they actually knew what they were talking about, they would be voting to decentralize the internet, not break Google up. I don't think trying to break up Mic

If they actually knew what they were talking about, they would be voting to decentralize the internet, not break Google up. I don't think trying to break up Microsoft or fine them for bundling internet explorer achieved a whole lot. They are looking at the problem the wrong way.

rvschuilenburg 12y ago
> I don't think trying to break up Microsoft or fine them for bundling internet explorer achieved a whole lot. I don't know. Is Internet Explorer still the most used webbrowser?
- jbrooksuk 12y ago
  > Is Internet Explorer still the most used webbrowser? Your point is moot.
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- Heliosmaster 12y ago
  Are you implying it's not because it is (hopefully was) crappy?
- throwawayaway 12y ago
  I think you are a bit blind if you think that decision is why people started to use other browsers.
kjjw 12y ago
'Decentralising the internet', if considering the web as an important part of that, pretty much is an effort to break apart Google. Google is a centralised web made reality.
- throwawayaway 12y ago
  Disagree. Not everything that works without or around Google is an effort to break apart Google.
pjc50 12y ago
The strange thing is that Microsoft got hit for bundling IE while the two big mobile/tablet OSs both not only ship with their own web browser but also (for iOS) grant the platform-preferred browser powers that no other application is allowed (JIT compilation). The question of "a market" versus "two distinct markets" is a vexed one. Is "phone browser" a seperate market from "phone"?
- throwawayaway 12y ago
  There was no follow through to back up that decision and it was merely a "get at microsoft any way that we can" scenario. The precedent was set that you can't bundle a program in a program but yet nobody else has ever been called up on it. I think the decision was ridiculous at the time, the fine achieved nothing and firefox achieved temporary dominance not because of that decision but the poor implementation of internet explorer.

rvschuilenburg 12y ago

> I don't think trying to break up Microsoft or fine them for bundling internet explorer achieved a whole lot. I don't know. Is Internet Explorer still the most used webbrowser?

jbrooksuk 12y ago
> Is Internet Explorer still the most used webbrowser? Your point is moot.
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Heliosmaster 12y ago
Are you implying it's not because it is (hopefully was) crappy?
throwawayaway 12y ago
I think you are a bit blind if you think that decision is why people started to use other browsers.

kjjw 12y ago

'Decentralising the internet', if considering the web as an important part of that, pretty much is an effort to break apart Google. Google is a centralised web made reality.

throwawayaway 12y ago
Disagree. Not everything that works without or around Google is an effort to break apart Google.

pjc50 12y ago

The strange thing is that Microsoft got hit for bundling IE while the two big mobile/tablet OSs both not only ship with their own web browser but also (for iOS) grant the platform-preferred browser powers that no other application is allowed (JIT compilation). The question of "a market" versus "two distinct markets" is a vexed one. Is "phone browser" a seperate market from "phone"?

throwawayaway 12y ago
There was no follow through to back up that decision and it was merely a "get at microsoft any way that we can" scenario. The precedent was set that you can't bundle a program in a program but yet nobody else has ever been called up on it. I think the decision was ridiculous at the time, the fine achieved nothing and firefox achieved temporary dominance not because of that decision but the poor implementation of internet explorer.