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Thanks for articulating this, although you may have just started a religious war. My only addition is why cyclists don't completely stop at stop signs. It's a

Thanks for articulating this, although you may have just started a religious war. My only addition is why cyclists don't completely stop at stop signs. It's a LOT of work to get up to speed from a dead stop, so it seems a bit pointless to do it when you can clearly see that no one is in the intersection. Also, as you are trying to accelerate from a dead stop, it takes a while to get through the intersection. If there does happen to be a motorist there, they have to sit and wait while you (slowly) go by. It isn't necessarily legal, but cyclists not completely stopping probably helps everyone.

jasonjei 12y ago
I think the biggest concern about cyclists is the I-don't-give-a-damn attitude (entitlement). I understand the reasons to run a red-light when safely clear to do, but when the action affects other users of the road, such as on a busy road, that's when it's a no-no (for example, I almost got sidelined by a cyclist running the bike downhill on a sidewalk as I was pulling out of the garage on my motorcycle). Take my opinion with a grain of salt as a fixed gear cyclist and motorcyclist. (And I do try to observe the law on my pedal bike.) Cyclist red light running does affect pedestrians. Consider this guy who was killed in NYC. [1] We all have to share the road. For cyclists, motorists, motorcyclists, and pedestrians in no order. [1] http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/new-yorks-cycles-of-death-our-arrogant-biker-nightmare/ http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/new-yorks-cycles-of-death-our-a...
- gburt 12y ago
  Please demonstrate that there is any such "entitlement" attitude among cyclists that does not exist among drivers. It is dangerous for cyclists and other road users for cyclists to "complete stop" at stop signs. It's not entitlement, it's an evaluation of risk.
- jrockway 12y ago
  You're using the Post as your source? You might as well link to The Onion.

jasonjei 12y ago

I think the biggest concern about cyclists is the I-don't-give-a-damn attitude (entitlement). I understand the reasons to run a red-light when safely clear to do, but when the action affects other users of the road, such as on a busy road, that's when it's a no-no (for example, I almost got sidelined by a cyclist running the bike downhill on a sidewalk as I was pulling out of the garage on my motorcycle). Take my opinion with a grain of salt as a fixed gear cyclist and motorcyclist. (And I do try to observe the law on my pedal bike.) Cyclist red light running does affect pedestrians. Consider this guy who was killed in NYC. [1] We all have to share the road. For cyclists, motorists, motorcyclists, and pedestrians in no order. [1] http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/new-yorks-cycles-of-death-our-arrogant-biker-nightmare/ http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/new-yorks-cycles-of-death-our-a...

gburt 12y ago
Please demonstrate that there is any such "entitlement" attitude among cyclists that does not exist among drivers. It is dangerous for cyclists and other road users for cyclists to "complete stop" at stop signs. It's not entitlement, it's an evaluation of risk.
jrockway 12y ago
You're using the Post as your source? You might as well link to The Onion.