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Just because you remove it from Google doesn't mean it didn't happen. Removing it from Google also doesn't result in your employer having an open mind about you

Just because you remove it from Google doesn't mean it didn't happen. Removing it from Google also doesn't result in your employer having an open mind about your past history. Making it easier to find something does not mean it won't be found. If you're a defendant in a case and proven innocent - that's on the record. If you're a victim of something and your name has been released to the public - also on the record. If it's a public record I support all efforts to make that data as easily accessible as possible. Preventing public discovery of an existing record does no one a service.

chc 12y ago
The fact that that exercise of the "right to be forgotten" won't completely protect you from facts about the past is a red herring. Security is almost never perfect. Security is mostly about making something generally impractical to do. This is similar — a dedicated snoop will probably be able to find the dirt, but it won't be readily apparent to everyone who types your name into the world's most typed-into box.
- sailfast 12y ago
  Totally understand and security by obscurity is definitely possible and effective, though difficult for media and the internet. That said, if something is legitimately public, why would we not want to make it easily accessible "using the world's most typed-into box"? Why would we prevent someone from developing an effective way to make that data available to the public? What differentiates something with your name on it from all other data? (I'm not talking about private data here that you entered or were promised would be shared in a private context from, say, a profile or payment information standpoint) This new "right" seems completely random and out of left field. It doesn't really have anything to do with privacy. I don't agree that it is a right because to me, rights make sense across the board. This one only kind of makes sense in a narrow context and when applied broadly doesn't work at all, and infringes on all the others.
  - benologist 12y ago
    It's a massive privacy issue - you can change in very personal, significant ways without Google etc updating the person they present you as being - your political beliefs, your gender and sexuality, controversial opinions etc. There are many contexts where these and outdated versions of you shouldn't be the most-available, most-presented information about you.
benologist 12y ago
Just because something happened doesn't make it relevant or truthful in all contexts forever.

chc 12y ago

The fact that that exercise of the "right to be forgotten" won't completely protect you from facts about the past is a red herring. Security is almost never perfect. Security is mostly about making something generally impractical to do. This is similar — a dedicated snoop will probably be able to find the dirt, but it won't be readily apparent to everyone who types your name into the world's most typed-into box.

sailfast 12y ago
Totally understand and security by obscurity is definitely possible and effective, though difficult for media and the internet. That said, if something is legitimately public, why would we not want to make it easily accessible "using the world's most typed-into box"? Why would we prevent someone from developing an effective way to make that data available to the public? What differentiates something with your name on it from all other data? (I'm not talking about private data here that you entered or were promised would be shared in a private context from, say, a profile or payment information standpoint) This new "right" seems completely random and out of left field. It doesn't really have anything to do with privacy. I don't agree that it is a right because to me, rights make sense across the board. This one only kind of makes sense in a narrow context and when applied broadly doesn't work at all, and infringes on all the others.
- benologist 12y ago
  It's a massive privacy issue - you can change in very personal, significant ways without Google etc updating the person they present you as being - your political beliefs, your gender and sexuality, controversial opinions etc. There are many contexts where these and outdated versions of you shouldn't be the most-available, most-presented information about you.

benologist 12y ago

Just because something happened doesn't make it relevant or truthful in all contexts forever.