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I ride as well, but do you honestly think that motorcycles aren't wild cards? How many motorcyclists die or get seriously injured yealry as a result of their ow

I ride as well, but do you honestly think that motorcycles aren't wild cards? How many motorcyclists die or get seriously injured yealry as a result of their own recklessness as opposed to bikes. Do you honestly thing that bicyclists don't view every single motor vehicle as a wild card? The damage tables are enormously shifted.

jasonjei 12y ago
I didn't say motorcyclists aren't a wildcard. To be honest, I see motorcyclists often being pulled over for being unpredictable and think it's a good thing. However, motorcyclists do tend to stop at red lights--which can't be said for 50 of the 100 times I've observed cyclists. And in places like California, lane splitting for cyclists and motorcyclists done safely does increase safety, reducing the possibility that you will be rear-ended by a texting driver [1]. Cycling injuries and public road infractions are often under reported or unreported. Cyclists also have less protective gear (Kevlar padding, body armor, leather, less protective helmet). At least vehicles that act like wildcards will eventually be pulled over, and with any luck, lose their driving privileges. You should always assume everyone on the road is a loose cannon--however, that doesn't mean you should be a wildcard in return (e.g not stopping at red lights). [1] Should only be done at stopped or traffic below 15mph. http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html
- sedachv 12y ago
  The CHP recommendations were: "It is not advisable to lane split when traffic flow is at 30 mph or faster" and "Travel at a speed that is no more than 10 MPH faster than other traffic" until "Land a State Job and Become an Instant Millionaire" scumbag Ken Mandler made a complaint to the California Office of Administrative Law: http://jalopnik.com/one-man-just-made-lane-splitting-infinitely-more-danger-1608567066 http://jalopnik.com/one-man-just-made-lane-splitting-infinit... That's 40mph top speed recommendation for lane splitting. In practice I find I sometimes need to lane split at 50mph when traffic is tightly packed - drivers do not see motorcycles in their blind spots and side-view mirrors when you are riding alongside. I have had cars try to merge into me on multiple occasions when I'm taking the full lane and traveling at the speed of traffic. When lane splitting, drivers either see me coming up on them in their side-view mirror (the angle of the side-view mirror works to your and the driver's advantage when you are between lanes), or I can see them prepare to make a lane change by signalling, turning their front wheels when stopped, or just pulling out without looking (which will usually happen ahead of you and give you time to brake - drivers do a much better job of not merging into cars in their blind spots, and that's what makes it safe to travel between two cars).

jasonjei 12y ago

I didn't say motorcyclists aren't a wildcard. To be honest, I see motorcyclists often being pulled over for being unpredictable and think it's a good thing. However, motorcyclists do tend to stop at red lights--which can't be said for 50 of the 100 times I've observed cyclists. And in places like California, lane splitting for cyclists and motorcyclists done safely does increase safety, reducing the possibility that you will be rear-ended by a texting driver [1]. Cycling injuries and public road infractions are often under reported or unreported. Cyclists also have less protective gear (Kevlar padding, body armor, leather, less protective helmet). At least vehicles that act like wildcards will eventually be pulled over, and with any luck, lose their driving privileges. You should always assume everyone on the road is a loose cannon--however, that doesn't mean you should be a wildcard in return (e.g not stopping at red lights). [1] Should only be done at stopped or traffic below 15mph. http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html

sedachv 12y ago
The CHP recommendations were: "It is not advisable to lane split when traffic flow is at 30 mph or faster" and "Travel at a speed that is no more than 10 MPH faster than other traffic" until "Land a State Job and Become an Instant Millionaire" scumbag Ken Mandler made a complaint to the California Office of Administrative Law: http://jalopnik.com/one-man-just-made-lane-splitting-infinitely-more-danger-1608567066 http://jalopnik.com/one-man-just-made-lane-splitting-infinit... That's 40mph top speed recommendation for lane splitting. In practice I find I sometimes need to lane split at 50mph when traffic is tightly packed - drivers do not see motorcycles in their blind spots and side-view mirrors when you are riding alongside. I have had cars try to merge into me on multiple occasions when I'm taking the full lane and traveling at the speed of traffic. When lane splitting, drivers either see me coming up on them in their side-view mirror (the angle of the side-view mirror works to your and the driver's advantage when you are between lanes), or I can see them prepare to make a lane change by signalling, turning their front wheels when stopped, or just pulling out without looking (which will usually happen ahead of you and give you time to brake - drivers do a much better job of not merging into cars in their blind spots, and that's what makes it safe to travel between two cars).