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101 points by juanriaza 12y ago

afandian 12y ago
The behaviour of Joyent towards Ben Nordhuis left a very bad taste in my mouth last year. So I checked on the contributions to libuv [1] and it looks like he's back on the project. I wonder what happened? [1] https://github.com/libuv/libuv/commits?author=bnoordhuis https://github.com/libuv/libuv/commits?author=bnoordhuis
- georgeb_ 12y ago
  Something seems to be happening at Joyent a lot of good people have left recently; Brendan Gregg, Deirdré Straughan, Ben Rockwood, Mark Cavage and so on. I love the work Joyent put out and have great admiration for them but something is off.
  - hacknat 12y ago
    Mark left? How did you find that out? This must have been super recent.
    - x0x0 12y ago
      he's building some sort of amazon cloud competitor at oracle [1]. Kind of inevitable, really, now that amazon is building Aurora and going after Oracle's core business. https://gigaom.com/2014/11/25/oracle-bulks-up-its-public-cloud-with-ex-joyent-engineer/ https://gigaom.com/2014/11/25/oracle-bulks-up-its-public-clo...
  - x0x0 12y ago
    Netflix is happy to pay people like Brendan Gregg a fucking ton of money, so it doesn't necessarily speak to anything at Joyent. Joyent has been going for 8 years and just raised another round; that's a long time.
- saghul 12y ago
  This move has nothing to do with that.
  - afandian 12y ago
    I'm not saying it did, just that it made me take another look and I was surprised and wondered if anyone had any insight.
- drderidder 12y ago
  There's now a community fork of node called node forward. Most of the core contribs including Ben are fully on board and it is going in some exciting directions already. It's a bit under the radar at the moment but has already been in the press so hopefully its okay to talk about.
- olalonde 12y ago
  > The behaviour of Joyent towards Ben Nordhuis left a very bad taste in my mouth last year. What happened?
  - deleted 12y ago
    [deleted]
  - argentpyro 12y ago
    Ben Noordhuis reverted a commit that had removed gendered language from libuv documentation: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/804d40e https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/804d40e Joyent received a lot of flak because people believe that Ben was a Joyent employee (he actually worked for Strongloop). Joyent came out with a post separating themselves from Ben, saying that they were in support of gender neutral language: https://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun https://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun
    - throwaway90446 12y ago
      Which is all well and good, but the author of that blog post, the one who stated he would not hesitate to fire Ben if he were an employee, has no problem mocking bisexuals in public presentations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkVM1B5NuI#t=3059 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkVM1B5NuI#t=3059 To date, Bryan Cantrill remains CTO of Joyent. The corporate position appears to be that blatant homophobia by employees is acceptable, but improper pronouns are terminable offenses.
      - afandian 12y ago
        That's extraordinarily hypocritical when you compare it to his blog post. That joke was completely inappropriate. http://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun http://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun
      - astrodust 12y ago
        That does seem like an inappropriate joke, bad taste no doubt, but a firing offense? Only if this was representative of a pattern.
michaelmior 12y ago
Interesting new logo [0] [0] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libuv/libuv/a499b737bf58b076c0c51868a5095c7c29be7c32/img/banner.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libuv/libuv/a499b737bf58b0...
- vkjv 12y ago
  I guess the "uv" in "libuv" stands for "unicorn velociraptor." Edit: "libuv" stand for "Librarian Unicorn Velociraptor". http://logs.nodejs.org/libuv/2012-09-09 http://logs.nodejs.org/libuv/2012-09-09
  - michaelmior 12y ago
    Ha! Did not hear this before :)
  - cpeterso 12y ago
    What did the "uv" in stand for originally?
    - oso2k 12y ago
      Don't quote me, but, I believe the expectation was that when you linked to it, you would be linking with "luv". Hence cc -luv myapp.o -o myapp This is intended to be much like the effect of GNU libiberty [0] (cc -liberty myapp.o -o myapp). [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libiberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libiberty
bigdubs 12y ago
The Kestrel (https://github.com/aspnet/KestrelHttpServer https://github.com/aspnet/KestrelHttpServer) web server that is included in ASP.net vNext uses Libuv at it's core. Pretty cool that this project is becoming more mature.

101 points by juanriaza 12y ago

The behaviour of Joyent towards Ben Nordhuis left a very bad taste in my mouth last year. So I checked on the contributions to libuv [1] and it looks like he's back on the project. I wonder what happened? [1] https://github.com/libuv/libuv/commits?author=bnoordhuis https://github.com/libuv/libuv/commits?author=bnoordhuis

georgeb_ 12y ago
Something seems to be happening at Joyent a lot of good people have left recently; Brendan Gregg, Deirdré Straughan, Ben Rockwood, Mark Cavage and so on. I love the work Joyent put out and have great admiration for them but something is off.
- hacknat 12y ago
  Mark left? How did you find that out? This must have been super recent.
  - x0x0 12y ago
    he's building some sort of amazon cloud competitor at oracle [1]. Kind of inevitable, really, now that amazon is building Aurora and going after Oracle's core business. https://gigaom.com/2014/11/25/oracle-bulks-up-its-public-cloud-with-ex-joyent-engineer/ https://gigaom.com/2014/11/25/oracle-bulks-up-its-public-clo...
- x0x0 12y ago
  Netflix is happy to pay people like Brendan Gregg a fucking ton of money, so it doesn't necessarily speak to anything at Joyent. Joyent has been going for 8 years and just raised another round; that's a long time.
saghul 12y ago
This move has nothing to do with that.
- afandian 12y ago
  I'm not saying it did, just that it made me take another look and I was surprised and wondered if anyone had any insight.
drderidder 12y ago
There's now a community fork of node called node forward. Most of the core contribs including Ben are fully on board and it is going in some exciting directions already. It's a bit under the radar at the moment but has already been in the press so hopefully its okay to talk about.
olalonde 12y ago
> The behaviour of Joyent towards Ben Nordhuis left a very bad taste in my mouth last year. What happened?
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- argentpyro 12y ago
  Ben Noordhuis reverted a commit that had removed gendered language from libuv documentation: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/804d40e https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/804d40e Joyent received a lot of flak because people believe that Ben was a Joyent employee (he actually worked for Strongloop). Joyent came out with a post separating themselves from Ben, saying that they were in support of gender neutral language: https://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun https://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun
  - throwaway90446 12y ago
    Which is all well and good, but the author of that blog post, the one who stated he would not hesitate to fire Ben if he were an employee, has no problem mocking bisexuals in public presentations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkVM1B5NuI#t=3059 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkVM1B5NuI#t=3059 To date, Bryan Cantrill remains CTO of Joyent. The corporate position appears to be that blatant homophobia by employees is acceptable, but improper pronouns are terminable offenses.
    - afandian 12y ago
      That's extraordinarily hypocritical when you compare it to his blog post. That joke was completely inappropriate. http://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun http://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun
    - astrodust 12y ago
      That does seem like an inappropriate joke, bad taste no doubt, but a firing offense? Only if this was representative of a pattern.

michaelmior 12y ago

Interesting new logo [0] [0] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libuv/libuv/a499b737bf58b076c0c51868a5095c7c29be7c32/img/banner.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libuv/libuv/a499b737bf58b0...

vkjv 12y ago
I guess the "uv" in "libuv" stands for "unicorn velociraptor." Edit: "libuv" stand for "Librarian Unicorn Velociraptor". http://logs.nodejs.org/libuv/2012-09-09 http://logs.nodejs.org/libuv/2012-09-09
- michaelmior 12y ago
  Ha! Did not hear this before :)
- cpeterso 12y ago
  What did the "uv" in stand for originally?
  - oso2k 12y ago
    Don't quote me, but, I believe the expectation was that when you linked to it, you would be linking with "luv". Hence cc -luv myapp.o -o myapp This is intended to be much like the effect of GNU libiberty [0] (cc -liberty myapp.o -o myapp). [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libiberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libiberty

bigdubs 12y ago

The Kestrel (https://github.com/aspnet/KestrelHttpServer https://github.com/aspnet/KestrelHttpServer) web server that is included in ASP.net vNext uses Libuv at it's core. Pretty cool that this project is becoming more mature.