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> You mean I can easily share copyrighted movies with strangers on dropbox? I've never seen anyone do that. Actually, this is very common. It works in exactly

> You mean I can easily share copyrighted movies with strangers on dropbox? I've never seen anyone do that. Actually, this is very common. It works in exactly the same way as MegaUpload did - Señora Pirata uploads her ripped movies to Dropbox, and distributes the public link to strangers.

pionar 12y ago
The difference is that Dropbox takes reasonable steps[0] to try to ferret out and block copyrighted material. Mega did not. [0]http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/30/how-dropbox-knows-when-youre-sharing-copyrighted-stuff-without-actually-looking-at-your-stuff/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/30/how-dropbox-knows-when-your...
- myrryr 12y ago
  Yeah, BUT, Mega did everything required under DMCA. When informed, he took down the offending data. A closer example is to compare it to youtube
  - rtpg 12y ago
    I think the case relied more on the fact that people in Megaupload were uploading things, and Kim was encouraging people to upload copyrighted things. DMCA Safe Harbor doesn't apply if you're complicit, IIRC.
  - icebraining 12y ago
    A closer example is to compare it to youtube Youtube, who spent millions developing a state-of-the-art image and sound recognition system (ContentID) so that copyrighted content could be detected and blocked by its holders?
  - brazzy 12y ago
    IIRC, Mega took down the offending URLs, of which there could be thousands pointing at the same data.
    - icebraining 12y ago
      That's perfectly valid. Copyrighted data isn't illegal to distribute per se, only distributing it without a valid license. The same file can be illegally distributed by one Mega user and legally by another - it depends on who they are and what license they might have.
  - BillFranklin 12y ago
    Youtube's copyrighted content recognition systems do not work that well - but now that these systems are a legal requirement they stop Youtube competitors from getting off the ground.
  - krrrh 12y ago
    You've probably never tried to watch YouTube videos from Germany. The most random incidental music in the background of a cat video can cause an upload that plays fine in the US to display something like, "This video is not available in your country because it contains music that the rights holder has not cleared through GEMA". Youtube goes to great lengths to follow all of the DMCA (not just notice and takedown), as well as the laws of other countries. Evidence indicates that MU did the opposite in many cases.

pionar 12y ago

The difference is that Dropbox takes reasonable steps[0] to try to ferret out and block copyrighted material. Mega did not. [0]http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/30/how-dropbox-knows-when-youre-sharing-copyrighted-stuff-without-actually-looking-at-your-stuff/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/30/how-dropbox-knows-when-your...

myrryr 12y ago
Yeah, BUT, Mega did everything required under DMCA. When informed, he took down the offending data. A closer example is to compare it to youtube
- rtpg 12y ago
  I think the case relied more on the fact that people in Megaupload were uploading things, and Kim was encouraging people to upload copyrighted things. DMCA Safe Harbor doesn't apply if you're complicit, IIRC.
- icebraining 12y ago
  A closer example is to compare it to youtube Youtube, who spent millions developing a state-of-the-art image and sound recognition system (ContentID) so that copyrighted content could be detected and blocked by its holders?
- brazzy 12y ago
  IIRC, Mega took down the offending URLs, of which there could be thousands pointing at the same data.
  - icebraining 12y ago
    That's perfectly valid. Copyrighted data isn't illegal to distribute per se, only distributing it without a valid license. The same file can be illegally distributed by one Mega user and legally by another - it depends on who they are and what license they might have.
- BillFranklin 12y ago
  Youtube's copyrighted content recognition systems do not work that well - but now that these systems are a legal requirement they stop Youtube competitors from getting off the ground.
- krrrh 12y ago
  You've probably never tried to watch YouTube videos from Germany. The most random incidental music in the background of a cat video can cause an upload that plays fine in the US to display something like, "This video is not available in your country because it contains music that the rights holder has not cleared through GEMA". Youtube goes to great lengths to follow all of the DMCA (not just notice and takedown), as well as the laws of other countries. Evidence indicates that MU did the opposite in many cases.