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suckless sounds quite like a good name. I'm currently also working on some terminal style I/O and I can totally understand why there are programs with >30k line

by erikb 12y ago

suckless sounds quite like a good name. I'm currently also working on some terminal style I/O and I can totally understand why there are programs with >30k lines of code just for being a terminal emulator. terminal communication is not really standardized. It has grown since a time where "computer" meant a person who calculates things. So I'm not sure it St could arrive at a stable state without also having a few thousands lines more than it would like to have. But what is wrong with Gnome-Terminal? For me it works well enough out of the box. I literally didn't do anything beside increasing the scroll buffer and haven't run into enough troubles yet to switch.

Argorak 12y ago
The source directory of libtsm, which only does the state handling for an abstract screen, is already ~11k without tests, so 30k doesn't surprise me. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/kmscon/libtsm/ http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/kmscon/libtsm/
chriswarbo 12y ago
> But what is wrong with Gnome-Terminal? The dependencies: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/gnome-3/3.12/core/gnome-terminal/default.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/g... If you're using Gnome, you probably have those already so it's no big deal. The same goes for Konsole in KDE: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/kde-4.14/applications/konsole.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/k... If not, pulling in a few hundred MB of dependencies for a terminal emulator seems distasteful. st is much more self-contained: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/misc/st/default.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applicatio... That's why st is usually compared to xterm; they're small, basic and desktop-agnostic.
- erikb 12y ago
  That's good to know. Without Gnome(3) Gnome-Terminal might not be the right choice.

by erikb 12y ago

Argorak 12y ago

The source directory of libtsm, which only does the state handling for an abstract screen, is already ~11k without tests, so 30k doesn't surprise me. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/kmscon/libtsm/ http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/kmscon/libtsm/

chriswarbo 12y ago

> But what is wrong with Gnome-Terminal? The dependencies: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/gnome-3/3.12/core/gnome-terminal/default.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/g... If you're using Gnome, you probably have those already so it's no big deal. The same goes for Konsole in KDE: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/kde-4.14/applications/konsole.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/desktops/k... If not, pulling in a few hundred MB of dependencies for a terminal emulator seems distasteful. st is much more self-contained: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/misc/st/default.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applicatio... That's why st is usually compared to xterm; they're small, basic and desktop-agnostic.

erikb 12y ago
That's good to know. Without Gnome(3) Gnome-Terminal might not be the right choice.