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The thing is, it's not usually easy to make money at that rate as a small company, especially on the consumer side. That is objectively a lot of money. I'm not

by ericd 12y ago

The thing is, it's not usually easy to make money at that rate as a small company, especially on the consumer side. That is objectively a lot of money. I'm not saying that good devs aren't worth a lot, but they're typically only worth that much when applied to a problem that impacts a huge number of people, as at Google, FB, Netflix, etc. The same dev working on a project that a small company launches may only have a $20k/yr impact on the bottom line. It takes a serious amount of usage to create the $2M/dev revenue figure you're quoting, and at that point, how much of the marginal impact is due to the dev vs. the corporate machine that enables him to have that large an impact?

pjbrunet 12y ago
You have to pay if you want to play.
NickNameNick 12y ago
If your expected return on a project is less than your planned costs to complete the project, why would you start at ANY price?
- ericd 12y ago
  Because there's something you want to make? And it's possible in the long term to ramp up to that point, it's just that these salary expectations make the first few years rather difficult - almost dependent on raising money at the absurd valuations that are currently the norm. Just saying, something's gotta give.
kamaal 12y ago
>>The thing is, it's not usually easy to make money at that rate as a small company, especially on the consumer side. That is objectively a lot of money. This is like saying you want a F1 car, but won't driving fast at all. But you need it anyway. Much of this making money thing depends on knowing how to use people to make money. If you can't use a rockstar or don't even need one why expect them to work for you. >>they're typically only worth that much when applied to a problem that impacts a huge number of people, as at Google, FB, Netflix, etc. Ironically, the chances of a somebody good ending up working on something trivial are high in such places. You can easily get 'placed' into some place where your skills can just rot without having any hope of moving out.

by ericd 12y ago

pjbrunet 12y ago

You have to pay if you want to play.

NickNameNick 12y ago

If your expected return on a project is less than your planned costs to complete the project, why would you start at ANY price?

ericd 12y ago
Because there's something you want to make? And it's possible in the long term to ramp up to that point, it's just that these salary expectations make the first few years rather difficult - almost dependent on raising money at the absurd valuations that are currently the norm. Just saying, something's gotta give.

kamaal 12y ago

>>The thing is, it's not usually easy to make money at that rate as a small company, especially on the consumer side. That is objectively a lot of money. This is like saying you want a F1 car, but won't driving fast at all. But you need it anyway. Much of this making money thing depends on knowing how to use people to make money. If you can't use a rockstar or don't even need one why expect them to work for you. >>they're typically only worth that much when applied to a problem that impacts a huge number of people, as at Google, FB, Netflix, etc. Ironically, the chances of a somebody good ending up working on something trivial are high in such places. You can easily get 'placed' into some place where your skills can just rot without having any hope of moving out.