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$5k is surely high, but from a researcher/professor point of view I don't think it's prohibitive, especially if you compare it with papers accepted to conferenc

by ecesena 12y ago

$5k is surely high, but from a researcher/professor point of view I don't think it's prohibitive, especially if you compare it with papers accepted to conferences where you need to cover travel and staying, sometimes maybe for 2 people. It's just sad that you have to pay for openness.

Al-Khwarizmi 12y ago
It depends on the country. In many countries funding agencies will just not give you $5K to pay for open access fees. Conferences that involve intercontinental travel are already prohibitive for many academics, by the way, and more than two people going is quite a luxury. In my university, the most normal thing to do if we get several papers at a conference is that a single person goes and presents them all, and many research groups don't do conferences in other continents (or only when they have some international coauthor that can go).
- ecesena 12y ago
  I totally agree, I'm just saying that often the cost for conferences is also high/comparable. Here $5k is intended for a major journal. Similarly is for conferences, I remember traveling from Italy to the US only for ACM CCS (one of the top conferences in security). For "standard" conferences the budget was "standard" :) Again, I won't repeat it enough, I'm not saying is good paying for openness.
p4bl0 12y ago
> $5k is surely high, but from a researcher/professor point of view I don't think it's prohibitive This is not true, $5k is a lot of money. It is certainly more than what traveling to a conference cost! I'm in France, and even going to California for a week, including plane tickets, accommodation, food, and conference registration is less than $5k. The thing is we are sometimes told to target journals rather than conferences because "there is no more budget this year" for instance. If we had to pay $5k to publish in journals we would just be told not to publish in these journals.

by ecesena 12y ago

Al-Khwarizmi 12y ago

It depends on the country. In many countries funding agencies will just not give you $5K to pay for open access fees. Conferences that involve intercontinental travel are already prohibitive for many academics, by the way, and more than two people going is quite a luxury. In my university, the most normal thing to do if we get several papers at a conference is that a single person goes and presents them all, and many research groups don't do conferences in other continents (or only when they have some international coauthor that can go).

ecesena 12y ago
I totally agree, I'm just saying that often the cost for conferences is also high/comparable. Here $5k is intended for a major journal. Similarly is for conferences, I remember traveling from Italy to the US only for ACM CCS (one of the top conferences in security). For "standard" conferences the budget was "standard" :) Again, I won't repeat it enough, I'm not saying is good paying for openness.

p4bl0 12y ago

> $5k is surely high, but from a researcher/professor point of view I don't think it's prohibitive This is not true, $5k is a lot of money. It is certainly more than what traveling to a conference cost! I'm in France, and even going to California for a week, including plane tickets, accommodation, food, and conference registration is less than $5k. The thing is we are sometimes told to target journals rather than conferences because "there is no more budget this year" for instance. If we had to pay $5k to publish in journals we would just be told not to publish in these journals.