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This kind of reminds me of "A monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors, what's the problem?"

by chc 12y ago

troels 12y ago
Editing /etc/hosts isn't exactly rocket science. If you're a developer anyway.
- chc 12y ago
  sk5t was talking about setting up a private DNS server, not editing /etc/hosts.
- coolsunglasses 12y ago
  > isn't exactly rocket science. If you're a developer anyway. This applies to monads too.
sk5t 12y ago
Do you mean that I am understating the difficulty of running DNS on a development workstation or home network? Running secure DNS at huge scale is challenging, but a puny server to mess around with is 1/10 the challenge of almost any development chore. (Apologies if I misunderstand the comparison to monad-speak.)
- chc 12y ago
  I'm basically saying you're overestimating the average developer's understanding of the running of a private DNS server at all. Monoids and endofunctors aren't actually difficult either, but they're arcane knowledge that most people don't have, so any statement that relies on average developers having that knowledge is a bit unrealistic. Basically, I'm pretty sure I could apt-get install bind, but then I would have no clue what I was doing and I'm not entirely sure what setting up a zone entails. These problems are probably all quite solvable, but without the foundational knowledge, it's not 1/10.
mercer 12y ago
Oh lord, you made me read those fake histories again. They consistently tickle my funny-bone in an unusually strong way and I'm not entirely sure why exactly. Can anyone recommend more of this kind of stuff?
- 0942v8653 12y ago
  For anyone not getting the reference, here's the link: http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...
- chc 12y ago
  I thought "The C Programming Language by Brian W Kernighan & Dennis M Ritchie & HP Lovecraft" was kinda similar in flavor.

This kind of reminds me of "A monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors, what's the problem?"

by chc 12y ago

This kind of reminds me of "A monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors, what's the problem?"

troels 12y ago

Editing /etc/hosts isn't exactly rocket science. If you're a developer anyway.

chc 12y ago
sk5t was talking about setting up a private DNS server, not editing /etc/hosts.
coolsunglasses 12y ago
> isn't exactly rocket science. If you're a developer anyway. This applies to monads too.

sk5t 12y ago

Do you mean that I am understating the difficulty of running DNS on a development workstation or home network? Running secure DNS at huge scale is challenging, but a puny server to mess around with is 1/10 the challenge of almost any development chore. (Apologies if I misunderstand the comparison to monad-speak.)

chc 12y ago
I'm basically saying you're overestimating the average developer's understanding of the running of a private DNS server at all. Monoids and endofunctors aren't actually difficult either, but they're arcane knowledge that most people don't have, so any statement that relies on average developers having that knowledge is a bit unrealistic. Basically, I'm pretty sure I could apt-get install bind, but then I would have no clue what I was doing and I'm not entirely sure what setting up a zone entails. These problems are probably all quite solvable, but without the foundational knowledge, it's not 1/10.

mercer 12y ago

Oh lord, you made me read those fake histories again. They consistently tickle my funny-bone in an unusually strong way and I'm not entirely sure why exactly. Can anyone recommend more of this kind of stuff?

0942v8653 12y ago
For anyone not getting the reference, here's the link: http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...
chc 12y ago
I thought "The C Programming Language by Brian W Kernighan & Dennis M Ritchie & HP Lovecraft" was kinda similar in flavor.