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Where do you get UNIX-haters? I read systemd haters which begets Linux haters but UNIX? No. Besides, Linux is no longer a UNIX-like system. Linux is now only L

• pdkl95 12y ago
  Just look at this very thread - there are numerous posts trashing the "old ways" of UNIX. It has been a common thread throughout the systemd mess. Lennart himself is very strongly outspoken against any use of shell scripting (not just in init).
  • antientropic 12y ago
    Sigh. Obligatory reference to http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html: "Myth: systemd is incompatible with shell scripts. This is entirely bogus. We just don't use them for the boot process, because we believe they aren't the best tool for that specific purpose, but that doesn't mean systemd was incompatible with them. You can easily run shell scripts as systemd services, heck, you can run scripts written in any language as systemd services, systemd doesn't care the slightest bit what's inside your executable. Moreover, we heavily use shell scripts for our own purposes, for installing, building, testing systemd. And you can stick your scripts in the early boot process, use them for normal services, you can run them at latest shutdown, there are practically no limits."
    • vezzy-fnord 12y ago
      Note that your quote doesn't contradict pdkl95's statement. Nowhere did they say that systemd prevents you from starting shell scripts, but that the developers have a (strong?) revulsion towards them.