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Have you tried using one of those IDEs written in Java?

by Void_ 12y ago

arcosdev 12y ago
Yes Pycharm and Webstorm are amazing
- Jonovono 12y ago
  Minus the lack of Dvorak support :(-
- nawariata 12y ago
  Sans the Java part.
  - brianpgordon 12y ago
    They are written in Java. The platform that they're built on is available on GitHub: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community
brianpgordon 12y ago
IntelliJ uses a totally custom widget toolkit that actually looks great. But yeah, NetBeans isn't especially easy on the eyes.
- drivingmenuts 12y ago
  I'm using Netbeans at work now, on a Mac, and the experience has been considerably less than ideal. The UI is almost, but not quite Mac-like (to be fair, when I've used it on Windows, the UI was almost-but-not-quite Windows-like) and I keep running up against things that seem like they should be configurable but are not. It's like Netbeans was designed by people who had UIs described to them, then semi-randomly decided that was stupid and they could implement them better without doing any research about why those things were the way they were. It works. It doesn't suck as much as it could. That's about the best I can say about it. At least it's not Eclipse. So there's that.
  - freshyill 12y ago
    Not-quite-Mac-like is way worse than not-at-all-Mac-like. Look at Sublime and Atom. Completely customizable and identical across platforms. I'd prefer that level of honesty to the fake-Mac interfaces that try and fail to look native.
  - doodpants 12y ago
    I love NetBeans on Windows, but it's terrible on Mac if you're a Dvorak typist and you want to use keyboard shortcuts. For some reason, when using the Dvorak layout, NetBeans can't decide whether to interpret a key press as Dvorak or QWERTY when using shortcuts, and often it uses both. For example, the W key in QWERTY is a comma in Dvorak. If you press Cmd-, to invoke the Preferences dialog, it interprets this as both Cmd-, and Cmd-W, so it brings up the Preferences dialog and closes the current file.
  - brianpgordon 12y ago
    Oh dear god, Eclipse approaches Adobe-level awfulness of widget toolkit design.
- netheril96 12y ago
  IntelliJ has very good IDEs. But their IDEs would be even better were they native OS X applications. For example, you can't use the Mac OS X services like "Look up in a dictionary" in IntelliJ.
  - tjl 12y ago
    For me, it's the open and save dialogs that bother me most. I quite like the editor, especially as compared to Eclipse, but for source editing, I'd rather use one the OS X editors like TextMate or BBEdit.
    - brianpgordon 12y ago
      I thought that it uses the native OS X file choosers unless you have ide.mac.filechooser.native set to false in the IntelliJ registry.
stormbrew 12y ago
This isn't an IDE. The comparable type of editor that's cross platform is probably sublime. Have you tried using that?
- 0942v8653 12y ago
  Sublime is the best cross-platform app I've ever used. I can count on one finger the number of times I've used something that felt native on more than one platform.
- Void_ 12y ago
  Nooo, is it any good? Sorry pushing sarcasm too far. Of course I have to agree on that one.
- stormbrew 12y ago
  That said I wish I didn't have to choose from this pick any two triangle of open source vs. cross-platform vs. gui.

Have you tried using one of those IDEs written in Java?

by Void_ 12y ago

Have you tried using one of those IDEs written in Java?

arcosdev 12y ago

Yes Pycharm and Webstorm are amazing

Jonovono 12y ago
Minus the lack of Dvorak support :(-
nawariata 12y ago
Sans the Java part.
- brianpgordon 12y ago
  They are written in Java. The platform that they're built on is available on GitHub: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community

brianpgordon 12y ago

IntelliJ uses a totally custom widget toolkit that actually looks great. But yeah, NetBeans isn't especially easy on the eyes.

drivingmenuts 12y ago
I'm using Netbeans at work now, on a Mac, and the experience has been considerably less than ideal. The UI is almost, but not quite Mac-like (to be fair, when I've used it on Windows, the UI was almost-but-not-quite Windows-like) and I keep running up against things that seem like they should be configurable but are not. It's like Netbeans was designed by people who had UIs described to them, then semi-randomly decided that was stupid and they could implement them better without doing any research about why those things were the way they were. It works. It doesn't suck as much as it could. That's about the best I can say about it. At least it's not Eclipse. So there's that.
- freshyill 12y ago
  Not-quite-Mac-like is way worse than not-at-all-Mac-like. Look at Sublime and Atom. Completely customizable and identical across platforms. I'd prefer that level of honesty to the fake-Mac interfaces that try and fail to look native.
- doodpants 12y ago
  I love NetBeans on Windows, but it's terrible on Mac if you're a Dvorak typist and you want to use keyboard shortcuts. For some reason, when using the Dvorak layout, NetBeans can't decide whether to interpret a key press as Dvorak or QWERTY when using shortcuts, and often it uses both. For example, the W key in QWERTY is a comma in Dvorak. If you press Cmd-, to invoke the Preferences dialog, it interprets this as both Cmd-, and Cmd-W, so it brings up the Preferences dialog and closes the current file.
- brianpgordon 12y ago
  Oh dear god, Eclipse approaches Adobe-level awfulness of widget toolkit design.
netheril96 12y ago
IntelliJ has very good IDEs. But their IDEs would be even better were they native OS X applications. For example, you can't use the Mac OS X services like "Look up in a dictionary" in IntelliJ.
- tjl 12y ago
  For me, it's the open and save dialogs that bother me most. I quite like the editor, especially as compared to Eclipse, but for source editing, I'd rather use one the OS X editors like TextMate or BBEdit.
  - brianpgordon 12y ago
    I thought that it uses the native OS X file choosers unless you have ide.mac.filechooser.native set to false in the IntelliJ registry.

stormbrew 12y ago

This isn't an IDE. The comparable type of editor that's cross platform is probably sublime. Have you tried using that?

0942v8653 12y ago
Sublime is the best cross-platform app I've ever used. I can count on one finger the number of times I've used something that felt native on more than one platform.
Void_ 12y ago
Nooo, is it any good? Sorry pushing sarcasm too far. Of course I have to agree on that one.
stormbrew 12y ago
That said I wish I didn't have to choose from this pick any two triangle of open source vs. cross-platform vs. gui.