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> It seems to me that the same principle of equality that says it's not ok to have a preference in partners based on race should say that it's not ok to have a

by codexon 17y ago

> It seems to me that the same principle of equality that says it's not ok to have a preference in partners based on race should say that it's not ok to have a preference based on gender, assuming that discrimination based on gender in general is not ok. Applying the "principle of equality" with a total disregard for the facts is fallacious. Why stop at race and gender? Why do we discriminate against corpses (necrophiliacs) or even different species (zoophilia)? This is the ridiculous argument you are presenting. A line has to be drawn somewhere and the tone of your skin should be a far less compelling characteristic than gender.

rsheridan6 17y ago
I'm not presenting a ridiculous argument, I'm just pointing out the consequences of making non-discrimination your highest principle. I'm not interested in telling other people who to have sex with. And there are definitely zoophiles who seek acceptance and are waiting for their Stonewall, probably necrophiles too. It looks like you've arbitrarily decided where the cutoff should be between acceptable discrimination and unacceptable discrimination. There are others who still think (as almost everybody did from about the 60s-90s) that the line should be drawn entirely outside of dating preferences. I don't see what makes your opinion any more binding than theirs.
- codexon 17y ago
  > "I'm just pointing out the consequences of making non-discrimination your highest principle. I'm not interested in telling other people who to have sex with. And there are definitely zoophiles who seek acceptance and are waiting for their Stonewall, probably necrophiles too." The problem with your argument is that the high percentage of females refusing to associate with different races (even their own race) is essentially dictating who other people have sex with. What happens if this trend continues? A large portion of the male population will likely either die out as virgins or be forced to relegate themselves to a dwindling number of minority females. I'm not trying to pull the race card, but you as a white male are likely not very concerned about this as it will not affect you in the slightest while minorities are worrying daily about how their dating prospects and why so many people simply ignore them.
  - defen 17y ago
    > The problem with your argument is that the high percentage of females refusing to associate with different races (even their own race) is essentially dictating who other people have sex with. Sorry, but your posts come off as really creepy and strange. I hope you realize that no one has a right to sex with anyone else, whether a particular person or a member of any arbitrary group? How do you propose solving this "problem" of women apparently being relatively less interested in non-white men?
    - codexon 17y ago
      > Sorry, but your posts come off as really creepy and strange. I hope you realize that no one has a right to sex with anyone else, whether a particular person or a member of any arbitrary group? So you are going to vote me down for citing a statistic? I never talked about forcing anyone to date a race they don't like. The first part of solving a problem is admitting there's a problem. Ignoring racism is part of the problem.

by codexon 17y ago

rsheridan6 17y ago

I'm not presenting a ridiculous argument, I'm just pointing out the consequences of making non-discrimination your highest principle. I'm not interested in telling other people who to have sex with. And there are definitely zoophiles who seek acceptance and are waiting for their Stonewall, probably necrophiles too. It looks like you've arbitrarily decided where the cutoff should be between acceptable discrimination and unacceptable discrimination. There are others who still think (as almost everybody did from about the 60s-90s) that the line should be drawn entirely outside of dating preferences. I don't see what makes your opinion any more binding than theirs.

codexon 17y ago
> "I'm just pointing out the consequences of making non-discrimination your highest principle. I'm not interested in telling other people who to have sex with. And there are definitely zoophiles who seek acceptance and are waiting for their Stonewall, probably necrophiles too." The problem with your argument is that the high percentage of females refusing to associate with different races (even their own race) is essentially dictating who other people have sex with. What happens if this trend continues? A large portion of the male population will likely either die out as virgins or be forced to relegate themselves to a dwindling number of minority females. I'm not trying to pull the race card, but you as a white male are likely not very concerned about this as it will not affect you in the slightest while minorities are worrying daily about how their dating prospects and why so many people simply ignore them.
- defen 17y ago
  > The problem with your argument is that the high percentage of females refusing to associate with different races (even their own race) is essentially dictating who other people have sex with. Sorry, but your posts come off as really creepy and strange. I hope you realize that no one has a right to sex with anyone else, whether a particular person or a member of any arbitrary group? How do you propose solving this "problem" of women apparently being relatively less interested in non-white men?
  - codexon 17y ago
    > Sorry, but your posts come off as really creepy and strange. I hope you realize that no one has a right to sex with anyone else, whether a particular person or a member of any arbitrary group? So you are going to vote me down for citing a statistic? I never talked about forcing anyone to date a race they don't like. The first part of solving a problem is admitting there's a problem. Ignoring racism is part of the problem.