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The systemd is a make dependency only. Unless you plan on compiling it yourself, you don't need systemd to run it. ~ $ y -Qi libutil-linux | grep Depends
by 1_player 12y ago
The systemd is a make dependency only. Unless you plan on compiling it yourself, you don't need systemd to run it.
~ $ y -Qi libutil-linux | grep Depends
Depends On : None
EDIT: conversely, these are the packages depending on systemd:
~ $ y -Qi systemd | grep Required | fmt
Required By : accountsservice chromium colord crda cups
device-mapper gnome-session lib32-systemd libgdm libgusb libpulse
libusb libvirt libwacom lvm2 media-player-info mesa mkinitcpio
netctl polkit procps-ng qt5-base qtwebkit rtkit spotify subversion
systemd-sysvcompat udisks2 upower xf86-input-evdev xf86-video-ati
xf86-video-modesetting
As a sysadmin and developer I don't understand this systemd-hate. If you ever have written a /etc/init.d script for a python non-daemoning script running in a virtualenv, or something to the same effect, you'd notice the improvement over SysV init scripts.
Upstart is nice too, but as a Linux desktop user I love socket activation: I can have cups, avahi and other optional/non-critical daemons "active" but not actually using any resource, until effectively used by some other process.
- exarch 12y ago>If you ever have written a /etc/init.d script for a python non-daemoning script running in a virtualenv, or something to the same effect, you'd notice the improvement over SysV init scripts. These are solved problems. You're creating a bunch of low level OS spaghetti because you don't want to have to write a shell script for your software? That is not a responsible decision-making process, that's moving the mountain to you.
- digi_owl 12y agoAnd making it harder for someone to come afterwards and untangle the mess. I swear a earlier discussion here on this very site had someone honestly suggest the usage of strace to figure out why systemd failed to boot.
- the_why_of_y 12y agoCountless subtle race conditions and security issues in the shell spaghetti that makes up real-world init scripts indicate that it's not a "solved problem".