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It's a deliberate attempt to force people into consistency. If you object to sex being used for marketing of unrelated products that should always be true. Whet

It's a deliberate attempt to force people into consistency. If you object to sex being used for marketing of unrelated products that should always be true. Whether that's uber with avions, car or game companies with booth babes, or the "just squeezed" juice ads with continuously flexing male glutes or voodoo stocking etc etc etc.

jacalata 12y ago
Well, I do object to booth babes and the Uber promotion, I'm not familar with the others you mention. So no need to force anything. Many people have previously objected to boothbabes with the exact same arguments, and I don't see anyone saying one is OK but not the other, so I don't know why you are acting like there is some hidden inconsistency to be exposed.
- etherael 12y ago
  You don't find it the slightest bit interesting that you're intimately familiar with the foremost examples of female objectification that spring to mind, but male examples of the same are so beneath your awareness that you don't even notice them generally speaking? That's the way it is for most of society. Frankly I don't particularly care, I don't really understand why people get incensed over these things. There is a market for them and where there is a demand that demand will be met. Complaining about it bitterly won't change that fact. We may as well attempt to wish away our sex drives. I bring up the inconsistency between the two not because I think that the war on female objectification should be expanded to the male counterpart thereof, but just to expose the difference in the views on the two subjects by society at large.
  - jacalata 12y ago
    No, I don't think its odd that I am familiar with examples in the tech industry but not those outside of it. I see boothbabes at conferences, I don't see ads for juice anywhere. I am not convinced that society is more OK with objectifying men than women and I don't think my exposure to advertising is evidence for your point.
    - etherael 12y ago
      You see more female objectification in the tech industry because it's a male dominated industry. That's just demographics. If you think there is just as much outrage over the sexual objectification of men as there is over the same for women in society at large though I really don't know what to tell you.
      - jacalata 12y ago
        Do you have an example of a female dominated industry that hires half dressed men as decoration for their conferences? I don't think this happens, although I'd be fascinated to be proven wrong. I don't think there is as much outrage over the sexual objectification of men because I don't think there is as much of it to be outraged by. The use of hot women in advertising is a standard, why aren't you mentioning that? Overall, why do you keep mentioning different categories of things and saying that because one involves a man and one involves a woman they make a good comparison? Uber offering rides with women != ManServants, boothbabes != an orange juice ad. Try and find some actually similar examples to talk about. Edit: although Uber == boothbabes seems accurate, so I guess they weren't all off!

jacalata 12y ago

Well, I do object to booth babes and the Uber promotion, I'm not familar with the others you mention. So no need to force anything. Many people have previously objected to boothbabes with the exact same arguments, and I don't see anyone saying one is OK but not the other, so I don't know why you are acting like there is some hidden inconsistency to be exposed.

etherael 12y ago
You don't find it the slightest bit interesting that you're intimately familiar with the foremost examples of female objectification that spring to mind, but male examples of the same are so beneath your awareness that you don't even notice them generally speaking? That's the way it is for most of society. Frankly I don't particularly care, I don't really understand why people get incensed over these things. There is a market for them and where there is a demand that demand will be met. Complaining about it bitterly won't change that fact. We may as well attempt to wish away our sex drives. I bring up the inconsistency between the two not because I think that the war on female objectification should be expanded to the male counterpart thereof, but just to expose the difference in the views on the two subjects by society at large.
- jacalata 12y ago
  No, I don't think its odd that I am familiar with examples in the tech industry but not those outside of it. I see boothbabes at conferences, I don't see ads for juice anywhere. I am not convinced that society is more OK with objectifying men than women and I don't think my exposure to advertising is evidence for your point.
  - etherael 12y ago
    You see more female objectification in the tech industry because it's a male dominated industry. That's just demographics. If you think there is just as much outrage over the sexual objectification of men as there is over the same for women in society at large though I really don't know what to tell you.
    - jacalata 12y ago
      Do you have an example of a female dominated industry that hires half dressed men as decoration for their conferences? I don't think this happens, although I'd be fascinated to be proven wrong. I don't think there is as much outrage over the sexual objectification of men because I don't think there is as much of it to be outraged by. The use of hot women in advertising is a standard, why aren't you mentioning that? Overall, why do you keep mentioning different categories of things and saying that because one involves a man and one involves a woman they make a good comparison? Uber offering rides with women != ManServants, boothbabes != an orange juice ad. Try and find some actually similar examples to talk about. Edit: although Uber == boothbabes seems accurate, so I guess they weren't all off!