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It's significant that, rather than disclose their cell tracking methods, the police and prosecutors prefer to discard the evidence. This suggests that obtaining
by elwin 12y ago
It's significant that, rather than disclose their cell tracking methods, the police and prosecutors prefer to discard the evidence. This suggests that obtaining evidence is not the primary purpose of the tracking technology.
- mjgoins 12y agoOr maybe it suggests that the technology is only useful if it can be used for the illegal gathering of evidence.
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- forgotAgain 12y agoAnd maybe that's just fud to cow the citizenry.
- kevin_thibedeau 12y agoThe federal government doesn't want its sources and methods exposed. They have allowed moles supplying info to the Soviets to go unprosecuted because nabbing them would have tipped off the Russians that their communication channels weren't secure.
- fnordfnordfnord 12y agoAnd that's probably fine, because national security is more important than a singular crime. If the federal government doesn't want certain sources and methods exposed in criminal court cases against non-spy citizens, then the federal government mustn't allow the use of those sources and methods against non-spy citizens in criminal court cases.
- jimjoejohnjeff 12y agoIt seems another conclusion is that they hope to somehow continue using these methods to gather more evidence in the future. By sacrificing this bit of evidence they may think they are saving untold oodles of future evidence. The argument maybe a little thin, seems like the judge maybe setting some sort of precedent here which would require them to always reveal their gather methods if they want to enter the evidence.
- rtpg 12y agoCan you explain how it suggests that? The most plausible explanation here seems to be the simplest: If the methods were exposed, the prosecutors it would have probably been ruled a warrantless search.
- spacemanmatt 12y agoWhy do they even have the Stingray equipment from the FBI, if they can't use its output in court?
- Thimothy 12y agoIn this case is obvious that Stingray was used, but in other cases (Plenty of examples in the discussion) it might not be easy to probe that the police obtained the info that lead to the investigation illegally.
- Torgo 12y agoThey've had it since 2009 and this apparently is the first time they've been called out on how they actually got the evidence. Pretty good ROI, illegal or not.