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About the OS X Yosemite v10.10.1 Update

50 points by teamhappy 12y ago

song 12y ago
They mention improved Wi-Fi reliability. Hope this solves the disconnection I've been having on Yosemite.
titusjohnson 12y ago
> Improves Wi-Fi reliability Here's hoping it fixes the issue I've been having since upgrading. My wifi doesn't drop, but my internet access stops working every 10 minutes or so. Cycling my wifi connected brings it back.
- TheSwordsman 12y ago
  Same problem. Upgraded immediately hoping it would fix this.
- twsted 12y ago
  In particular, I was experiencing the issue reported here: http://markmaunder.com/2014/11/13/os-x-10-10-yosemite-wifi-problems-analyzed/ http://markmaunder.com/2014/11/13/os-x-10-10-yosemite-wifi-p...
- rcthompson 12y ago
  I occasionally need to turn wifi off and on again, so I wrote a script to do it: https://gist.github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/d2f2b97540e8c3ff733d https://gist.github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/d2f2b97540e8c3ff73... Open that in Script Editor and then export is as an application. Then just run that application whenever your wifi stops working for no reason.
- jrmiii 12y ago
  Same issue, I ended up blowing away the network plists and letting the OS regenerate them and that fixed it for me.
Osmium 12y ago
Really hope they fix the multiple display issues where menu bar icons are redrawn every time you switch displays causing flickering in your peripheral vision. Very annoying. According to the link below, this is "by design" but it clearly seems like a bug to me. http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/152038/prevent-redraw-of-menu-bar-icons-yosemite http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/152038/prevent-redr...
- rsync 12y ago
  It is baffling to me how poorly apple, and their OS, has supported multiple monitors. I heard anecdotes that it was passable on Mavericks, but prior to that there were all manner of basic usage problems. It makes me think that there must be some kind of "apple way" resistance to multiple monitors ? Is it considered a "wrong" use-case ? Do people at apple not use multiple screens in their own work ? (how could they, with the issues that have plagued it since snow leopard...) What's the deal ?
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  - Schlaefer 12y ago
    > What's the deal ? Mac OS and OS X always had good multi-monitor support. In 10.7+ Apple tried to push a "one app in fullscreen as in iOS" approach as new paradigm, negatively affecting the multi-monitor experience. It backfired and they adjusted in 10.9+.
  - joshstrange 12y ago
    This also baffles me. I have a number of friends who use OS X for development and some just use one large monitor + spaces but the majority use multiple monitors. None of them experienced this issue but we were unable to figure out (we didn't spend a lot of time on it) what was different about my setup from theirs. Maybe it just never manifested for Apple employees? That sounds a little ridiculous but I don't know what else to think.
  - jrochkind1 12y ago
chiph 12y ago
> You should back up your system before installation. To do this you can use Time Machine. Except that Yosemite stopped recognizing my Time Machine drive because it was plugged in through a powered USB 3.0 hub. It doesn't look like I'm the only one with this problem - if someone from Apple were to PM me, I could reply with the USB vendor & product ID to help get this solved.
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  - ahassan 12y ago
    I'd expect that USB storage devices are supported. Why would you drop support for the most commonly used external storage?
  - TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago
    Apple didn't drop support for 3rd-party SSDs, nor did they drop TRIM support, as it was never supported on 3rd-party SSDs. Rather, signature verification meant that an unofficial kext patch to make TRIM work on 3rd-party SSDs stopped working.
  - chiph 12y ago
    No, it's a bog-standard Western Digital that's about a year old.
anmonteiro90 12y ago
Update in progress, I hope it solves some PDF file crashes on preview for which I submitted some crash reports :)
- anmonteiro90 12y ago
  And... it didn't
carlob 12y ago
I wish I hadn't upgraded in the first place, the UI looks terrible, even with transparency dialed down it's definitely a step back from mavericks. http://uxcritique.tumblr.com http://uxcritique.tumblr.com Low transparency mode has this weird bug where the corner of rounded rectangles are black rather than fully transparent. Try enabling it in accessibility and then changing the volume. Edit: I wonder why I am being downvoted. UI/UX bugs are bugs as well and need to be addressed!
- chucknelson 12y ago
  I would think the downvoting is from your "UI looks terrible" comment rather than the possible bug you mention.
  - carlob 12y ago
    The UI does look terrible and, as the link I provided shows, many things people complain about are not a matter of personal taste, but actual reductions of usability.
- brandonmenc 12y ago
  This is the best looking OS X, imo. I've been using it since 10.1, and the only time I thought they took a step back was with Mavericks. I attribute that to major UI changes needing a version to sort out.
  - carlob 12y ago
    I had this feeling of going back with Lion, when they removed the scroll bars. It might look great, and I agree it's pretty slick and much more à la page if you will, but it's much less usable. Windows 8 looks so much better than 7 [1], but it's a train wreck in terms of discoverability and usability. [1] one might argue that this flat UI trend originated at Microsoft that Apple is copying them and that some of the things Microsoft is doing now look much better than their Apple counterpart especially on mobile. I can't comment on usability, because I haven't tried either.
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kstenerud 12y ago
Have they fixed cifs slowness in Yosemite? That would be my only reason for upgrading. I actually use a vm Windows for browsing network shares on my Mac it's so bad..
- nextw33k 12y ago
  Perhaps you should switch up from cifs to smbfs? I used to use cifs in Maverick but now appear to get slightly better stability and performance using smbfs with my Window 2012 server and 10.10. Jury is still out on 10.10.1.
geekam 12y ago
Is it just me or do the last iOS and OSX updates look really bad? I upgraded my iPhone to iOS 8 and somehow calls started dopping (even after 8.1 and resetting the entire device twice!). The Apple help desk actually asked me to install each app one-by-one to see if that finds a rogue app! Luckily, I was within a year of warranty and they replaced my iPhone. I have not upgraded to OSX Yosemite yet. I am afraid that there will be a performance hit. Even the new iPhone 5S I got replaced faces some lags that weren't present in iOS 7. What are your views about upgrading to Yosemite, esp. related to dev environments? Edit: I have faced similar lags after updates on my iPad Air too. Hence, the dismay.
- ahassan 12y ago
  So far I haven't encountered any issues with iOS 8 or Yosemite. I use my laptop as a developer daily and it's been perfect for me.
  - geekam 12y ago
    Thanks! Did you do a fresh install or upgraded?
    - wodenokoto 12y ago
      FWIW, I did an upgrade and I haven't seen any (new) problems what so ever.
- jonnathanson 12y ago
  I've had a lot of wonkiness with Keychain, iCloud, and iMessage since the upgrades, but that seems to be because certain preferences were reset or deactivated in the process. (I'm also willing to accept user error as the culprit). Have also had some weird issues with wifi connectivity, which is ostensibly one of the reasons for this update. And there have been some strange lockups on the mail screen on my iPad, occasionally forcing me to hard-close the mail app. Other than that, I haven't noticed anything significantly "bad" about the updates. Yosemite has been fine for me, and aside from some third-party compatibility issues (which happen with every major OS upgrade), the upgrade has been seamless. iOS 8 performs well, aside from the aforementioned problems.
untog 12y ago
I'm still on 10.9. If I don't have an iPhone, what is my reason to upgrade right now? All I've seen so far is the continuity stuff.
publicfig 12y ago
I see nothing about it, but I've noticed an issue with headphones (and maybe multiple monitors). If you plug in headphones while your laptop is asleep, then wake it up, it seems to crash with a "sleep wake failure". Once I found the issue I was able to help a lot of people stop their macs from crashing on wake as well. Really hope that one is fixed in this update.
suhailpatel 12y ago
My rMBP updated just fine to 10.10.1 but when I went to update my sister's MBP with a 840 SSD and Trim Enabled I ran into the grey forbidden screen and safe mode yielded the 'Waiting for root device' error. This can be fixed by going into recovery mode (Command+R) on boot and running the following commands: rm -rf /Volumes/<10.10 Partition>/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext cp -r /System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext/Volumes/<10.10 Partition>/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext touch /Volumes/<10.10 Partition>/System/Library/Extensions kextcache -u /Volumes/<10.10 Partition> The update installed just fine after that, the commands disable TRIM and restore the original OSX kext which was replaced by TRIM Enabler Commands Source: http://www.cindori.org/forums/topic/heads-up-osx-10-10-beta-no-go/ http://www.cindori.org/forums/topic/heads-up-osx-10-10-beta-...
- teamhappy 12y ago
  I have the same SSD (Samsung 840 PRO) and had no issues at all. I highly recommend this script to enable TRIM: https://gist.github.com/return1/4058659 https://gist.github.com/return1/4058659
  - kstrauser 12y ago
    Be aware this script (and Trim Enabler) require you to turn off kext signature validation. This feature was added in 10.9 but it only raised warnings on missing or invalid signatures. It didn't actually prevent the kext loading. 10.10 now raises an exception whenever you load an unsigned or invalidly signed kext. Disabling this check returns you to 10.9-level security and removes barrier to malware installing its own kernel modules.
    - teamhappy 12y ago
      Yeah, unfortunately there is no way to enable TRIM without turning off signature validation completely. Apple calls the feature kext developer mode. It would be nice to see them providing more fine grained control over which kexts are supposed to run in dev mode — or just enable TRIM for non-Apple SSDs in the first place.
xenophonf 12y ago
Ah, too bad there aren't any fixes listed for Bluetooth. I've been having all kinds of issues with device pairing and, once paired, connections dropping. I also suspect Bluetooth (or rather, searches for nonexistent BT input devices) to be the cause of very long delays when resuming from hibernation.
- epic9x 12y ago
  This is indeed a huge bummer, now that I've upgraded to yosemite I've got 1-2 full seconds of lag streaming audio to my blue tooth receiver.
  - spydertennis 12y ago
    same here. hope they fix it soon
pi-rat 12y ago
Disappointed that the update doesn't seem to mention graphics fixes. Many people (myself and my colleague included) are having issues with the dual gpu mbp retina. Graphics corruption, forced logouts, big black blocks - seems to happen while switching from intel to nvidia.
weavejester 12y ago
There doesn't appear to be any fixes for FileVault, which is rather disappointing. Under certain circumstances, particularly with new installs, FileVault can get into an inconsistent state and the only known cure (so far) is to erase the disk and reinstall. Edit: Nope, FileVault is still broken after the patch.
sytringy05 12y ago
No mention about fixes to the WindowServer using all available CPU either... When there's animation on the dock it happily uses ties up a core for as long as it can.
robmiller 12y ago
Would be nice if it fixed computer names on a local network incrementing randomly: hostname (1), hostname (2), ..., hostname (n)
- FireBeyond 12y ago
  Disable Wake for Network Activity. Worked for me, but I don't like it.
DigitalSea 12y ago
Sigh. It took Apple a month to release a relatively small and minor incremental update to an OS they launched over a month ago riddled with bugs and UI inconsistencies and issues. This update is meant to address the wifi issues of intermittent connections, weak connections, constant dropouts and lost packets. Installing the update has not fixed the wifi issues and some Googling/Apple forums proves this. I have resorted to using my Dell laptop more than my Mac because the wifi issues have been too much to bear. Apple used to be about quality. Mavericks was a fantastic operating system I had no such issues with. What are Apple doing over there? This is what happens when you put an industrial designer in charge of your software.

50 points by teamhappy 12y ago

song 12y ago

They mention improved Wi-Fi reliability. Hope this solves the disconnection I've been having on Yosemite.

> Improves Wi-Fi reliability Here's hoping it fixes the issue I've been having since upgrading. My wifi doesn't drop, but my internet access stops working every 10 minutes or so. Cycling my wifi connected brings it back.

TheSwordsman 12y ago
Same problem. Upgraded immediately hoping it would fix this.
twsted 12y ago
In particular, I was experiencing the issue reported here: http://markmaunder.com/2014/11/13/os-x-10-10-yosemite-wifi-problems-analyzed/ http://markmaunder.com/2014/11/13/os-x-10-10-yosemite-wifi-p...
rcthompson 12y ago
I occasionally need to turn wifi off and on again, so I wrote a script to do it: https://gist.github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/d2f2b97540e8c3ff733d https://gist.github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/d2f2b97540e8c3ff73... Open that in Script Editor and then export is as an application. Then just run that application whenever your wifi stops working for no reason.
jrmiii 12y ago
Same issue, I ended up blowing away the network plists and letting the OS regenerate them and that fixed it for me.

Osmium 12y ago

Really hope they fix the multiple display issues where menu bar icons are redrawn every time you switch displays causing flickering in your peripheral vision. Very annoying. According to the link below, this is "by design" but it clearly seems like a bug to me. http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/152038/prevent-redraw-of-menu-bar-icons-yosemite http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/152038/prevent-redr...

rsync 12y ago
It is baffling to me how poorly apple, and their OS, has supported multiple monitors. I heard anecdotes that it was passable on Mavericks, but prior to that there were all manner of basic usage problems. It makes me think that there must be some kind of "apple way" resistance to multiple monitors ? Is it considered a "wrong" use-case ? Do people at apple not use multiple screens in their own work ? (how could they, with the issues that have plagued it since snow leopard...) What's the deal ?
- deleted 12y ago
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- Schlaefer 12y ago
  > What's the deal ? Mac OS and OS X always had good multi-monitor support. In 10.7+ Apple tried to push a "one app in fullscreen as in iOS" approach as new paradigm, negatively affecting the multi-monitor experience. It backfired and they adjusted in 10.9+.
- joshstrange 12y ago
  This also baffles me. I have a number of friends who use OS X for development and some just use one large monitor + spaces but the majority use multiple monitors. None of them experienced this issue but we were unable to figure out (we didn't spend a lot of time on it) what was different about my setup from theirs. Maybe it just never manifested for Apple employees? That sounds a little ridiculous but I don't know what else to think.
- jrochkind1 12y ago

chiph 12y ago

> You should back up your system before installation. To do this you can use Time Machine. Except that Yosemite stopped recognizing my Time Machine drive because it was plugged in through a powered USB 3.0 hub. It doesn't look like I'm the only one with this problem - if someone from Apple were to PM me, I could reply with the USB vendor & product ID to help get this solved.

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- ahassan 12y ago
  I'd expect that USB storage devices are supported. Why would you drop support for the most commonly used external storage?
- TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago
  Apple didn't drop support for 3rd-party SSDs, nor did they drop TRIM support, as it was never supported on 3rd-party SSDs. Rather, signature verification meant that an unofficial kext patch to make TRIM work on 3rd-party SSDs stopped working.
- chiph 12y ago
  No, it's a bog-standard Western Digital that's about a year old.

anmonteiro90 12y ago

Update in progress, I hope it solves some PDF file crashes on preview for which I submitted some crash reports :)

anmonteiro90 12y ago
And... it didn't

carlob 12y ago

I wish I hadn't upgraded in the first place, the UI looks terrible, even with transparency dialed down it's definitely a step back from mavericks. http://uxcritique.tumblr.com http://uxcritique.tumblr.com Low transparency mode has this weird bug where the corner of rounded rectangles are black rather than fully transparent. Try enabling it in accessibility and then changing the volume. Edit: I wonder why I am being downvoted. UI/UX bugs are bugs as well and need to be addressed!

chucknelson 12y ago
I would think the downvoting is from your "UI looks terrible" comment rather than the possible bug you mention.
- carlob 12y ago
  The UI does look terrible and, as the link I provided shows, many things people complain about are not a matter of personal taste, but actual reductions of usability.
brandonmenc 12y ago
This is the best looking OS X, imo. I've been using it since 10.1, and the only time I thought they took a step back was with Mavericks. I attribute that to major UI changes needing a version to sort out.
- carlob 12y ago
  I had this feeling of going back with Lion, when they removed the scroll bars. It might look great, and I agree it's pretty slick and much more à la page if you will, but it's much less usable. Windows 8 looks so much better than 7 [1], but it's a train wreck in terms of discoverability and usability. [1] one might argue that this flat UI trend originated at Microsoft that Apple is copying them and that some of the things Microsoft is doing now look much better than their Apple counterpart especially on mobile. I can't comment on usability, because I haven't tried either.
12y ago

kstenerud 12y ago

Have they fixed cifs slowness in Yosemite? That would be my only reason for upgrading. I actually use a vm Windows for browsing network shares on my Mac it's so bad..

nextw33k 12y ago
Perhaps you should switch up from cifs to smbfs? I used to use cifs in Maverick but now appear to get slightly better stability and performance using smbfs with my Window 2012 server and 10.10. Jury is still out on 10.10.1.

geekam 12y ago

Is it just me or do the last iOS and OSX updates look really bad? I upgraded my iPhone to iOS 8 and somehow calls started dopping (even after 8.1 and resetting the entire device twice!). The Apple help desk actually asked me to install each app one-by-one to see if that finds a rogue app! Luckily, I was within a year of warranty and they replaced my iPhone. I have not upgraded to OSX Yosemite yet. I am afraid that there will be a performance hit. Even the new iPhone 5S I got replaced faces some lags that weren't present in iOS 7. What are your views about upgrading to Yosemite, esp. related to dev environments? Edit: I have faced similar lags after updates on my iPad Air too. Hence, the dismay.

ahassan 12y ago
So far I haven't encountered any issues with iOS 8 or Yosemite. I use my laptop as a developer daily and it's been perfect for me.
- geekam 12y ago
  Thanks! Did you do a fresh install or upgraded?
  - wodenokoto 12y ago
    FWIW, I did an upgrade and I haven't seen any (new) problems what so ever.
jonnathanson 12y ago
I've had a lot of wonkiness with Keychain, iCloud, and iMessage since the upgrades, but that seems to be because certain preferences were reset or deactivated in the process. (I'm also willing to accept user error as the culprit). Have also had some weird issues with wifi connectivity, which is ostensibly one of the reasons for this update. And there have been some strange lockups on the mail screen on my iPad, occasionally forcing me to hard-close the mail app. Other than that, I haven't noticed anything significantly "bad" about the updates. Yosemite has been fine for me, and aside from some third-party compatibility issues (which happen with every major OS upgrade), the upgrade has been seamless. iOS 8 performs well, aside from the aforementioned problems.

untog 12y ago

I'm still on 10.9. If I don't have an iPhone, what is my reason to upgrade right now? All I've seen so far is the continuity stuff.

publicfig 12y ago

I see nothing about it, but I've noticed an issue with headphones (and maybe multiple monitors). If you plug in headphones while your laptop is asleep, then wake it up, it seems to crash with a "sleep wake failure". Once I found the issue I was able to help a lot of people stop their macs from crashing on wake as well. Really hope that one is fixed in this update.

suhailpatel 12y ago

My rMBP updated just fine to 10.10.1 but when I went to update my sister's MBP with a 840 SSD and Trim Enabled I ran into the grey forbidden screen and safe mode yielded the 'Waiting for root device' error. This can be fixed by going into recovery mode (Command+R) on boot and running the following commands: rm -rf /Volumes/<10.10 Partition>/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext cp -r /System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext/Volumes/<10.10 Partition>/System/Library/Extensions/IOAHCIFamily.kext touch /Volumes/<10.10 Partition>/System/Library/Extensions kextcache -u /Volumes/<10.10 Partition> The update installed just fine after that, the commands disable TRIM and restore the original OSX kext which was replaced by TRIM Enabler Commands Source: http://www.cindori.org/forums/topic/heads-up-osx-10-10-beta-no-go/ http://www.cindori.org/forums/topic/heads-up-osx-10-10-beta-...

teamhappy 12y ago
I have the same SSD (Samsung 840 PRO) and had no issues at all. I highly recommend this script to enable TRIM: https://gist.github.com/return1/4058659 https://gist.github.com/return1/4058659
- kstrauser 12y ago
  Be aware this script (and Trim Enabler) require you to turn off kext signature validation. This feature was added in 10.9 but it only raised warnings on missing or invalid signatures. It didn't actually prevent the kext loading. 10.10 now raises an exception whenever you load an unsigned or invalidly signed kext. Disabling this check returns you to 10.9-level security and removes barrier to malware installing its own kernel modules.
  - teamhappy 12y ago
    Yeah, unfortunately there is no way to enable TRIM without turning off signature validation completely. Apple calls the feature kext developer mode. It would be nice to see them providing more fine grained control over which kexts are supposed to run in dev mode — or just enable TRIM for non-Apple SSDs in the first place.

xenophonf 12y ago

Ah, too bad there aren't any fixes listed for Bluetooth. I've been having all kinds of issues with device pairing and, once paired, connections dropping. I also suspect Bluetooth (or rather, searches for nonexistent BT input devices) to be the cause of very long delays when resuming from hibernation.

epic9x 12y ago
This is indeed a huge bummer, now that I've upgraded to yosemite I've got 1-2 full seconds of lag streaming audio to my blue tooth receiver.
- spydertennis 12y ago
  same here. hope they fix it soon

pi-rat 12y ago

Disappointed that the update doesn't seem to mention graphics fixes. Many people (myself and my colleague included) are having issues with the dual gpu mbp retina. Graphics corruption, forced logouts, big black blocks - seems to happen while switching from intel to nvidia.

weavejester 12y ago

There doesn't appear to be any fixes for FileVault, which is rather disappointing. Under certain circumstances, particularly with new installs, FileVault can get into an inconsistent state and the only known cure (so far) is to erase the disk and reinstall. Edit: Nope, FileVault is still broken after the patch.

sytringy05 12y ago

No mention about fixes to the WindowServer using all available CPU either... When there's animation on the dock it happily uses ties up a core for as long as it can.

robmiller 12y ago

Would be nice if it fixed computer names on a local network incrementing randomly: hostname (1), hostname (2), ..., hostname (n)

FireBeyond 12y ago
Disable Wake for Network Activity. Worked for me, but I don't like it.

DigitalSea 12y ago

Sigh. It took Apple a month to release a relatively small and minor incremental update to an OS they launched over a month ago riddled with bugs and UI inconsistencies and issues. This update is meant to address the wifi issues of intermittent connections, weak connections, constant dropouts and lost packets. Installing the update has not fixed the wifi issues and some Googling/Apple forums proves this. I have resorted to using my Dell laptop more than my Mac because the wifi issues have been too much to bear. Apple used to be about quality. Mavericks was a fantastic operating system I had no such issues with. What are Apple doing over there? This is what happens when you put an industrial designer in charge of your software.