> any observable universe you actually live in will appear to be "fine-tuned" Who is "you"? Monkey, Mankind, Messiah, Mutant, or Machine? To elaborate... Monk

> any observable universe you actually live in will appear to be "fine-tuned" Who is "you"? Monkey, Mankind, Messiah, Mutant, or Machine? To elaborate... Monkey: If chimps or even dinosaurs were sufficiently self-aware, then why did life continue to evolve to humans, and not die off after the first animal conscious of its surroundings. But if such consciousness isn't enough... Mankind: Why did humans multiply beyond the first one to ponder about existence. It seems there might have been only a few thousand humans alive at some point in time about 100,000 yrs ago, so if the first human to draw speculations about an after-life on a cave wall lived before then, why didn't humans go extinct soon after? Messiah: Or was it a the existence of a single special human at some time in the past or future who must observe the universe? Or a single instant in the life of that special human? The instant the Buddha achieved enlightenment, or any number of other examples which make the weak anthropic principle be a religious issue not a scientific one. Could certain fine-tunings of the earth that don't appear related to the evolution of intelligent life, such as the Sun and Moon having the exact same size when visible from Earth, exist to contribute to that moment of enlightenment of such a single human? Mutant: Why does the distribution of the planets in the solar system appear to be fine-tuned for inter-gallactic space travel? There's only about 10 other solar objects with gravity comparable to Earth's and hence suitable for long-term civilization. The Moon has already been walked on, and humans can easily build large contained cities there using telepresent robots with a 1 second response time. Then Mars and Mercury with semi-intelligent robots to cater for the much longer response time, then Jupiter's 4 large moons to provide humankind with experience of much longer travel times, then a single moon of Saturn to eliminate any initial choice of target, then the huge gap skipping Uranus's lack of sizable moons to Neptune's Tritan, and finally the thousands of years needed to terraform Venus. By then humankind will have trained up, apparently serendipitously, for inter-gallactic travel. Perhaps some evolved version of super-intelligent humans will experience some future version of consciousness we present day humans can't conceive of and the Universe is actually fine-tuned for them. Machine: Or perhaps humans build the consciousness the Universe is fine-tuned for.