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If you have a bunch of single people raising kids on their own, something like this is bound to happen. "Diana and Ivette’s mother, Marisol, for instance, is r
by parennoob 12y ago
If you have a bunch of single people raising kids on their own, something like this is bound to happen.
"Diana and Ivette’s mother, Marisol, for instance, is raising the girls on her own, working at a supermarket from 8 a.m. until 2 p.m. and at Home Depot from 6 to 10 p.m., six days a week. "
"This clock has highlighted weakness in our social networks. In 2013, 28 percent of children were living with a single parent; 77 percent of those single parents are mothers."
Sounds like at some point, people are going to have to make a specific choice between raising kids on their own (potentially) or not having them at all; and vote for Governments that favor the policy they prefer.
- guard-of-terra 12y agoHow can we as a society survive if most people decide to not have kids at all?
- parennoob 12y agoAdoption? Immigration? The US is supposed to be a nation of immigrants, after all.
- eidyia 12y ago"How can we as a society survive if most people decide to not have kids at all?" > at all, suggests adoption is out of the question its not a matter of giving birth to a kid but raising it. > immigration is hardly a "solution" its like having 2 pans and a pizza dough enough for 1 pan, and split it to 2 pans making half a pizza in each. you have 2 pizzas, but smaller, thinner and sadder =[
- guard-of-terra 12y agoIf you rely on immigration from 3rd world countries to replenish population, you'll become a 3rd world country. Do you really want that?
- tokenadult 12y agoThe United States has always relied on immigration from worse-off countries to grow strong as a country. The immigrants come here and become Americans. Only a minority of today's Americans are descended from immigrants from Britain (indeed, only a minority of my own ancestors were from Britain), but almost everyone here is English-speaking and American in cultural outlook. This is how immigration works: people become acculturated to the new country, even with very high rates of immigration.
- guard-of-terra 12y agoI would speculate that it won't work anymore. When economy is bad and only unsustainable wages are available for work, immigrants will stop assimilating and start to create 3rd world within 1st world. I think it already happens.
- zo1 12y agoNot "most" people, just the ones that can't afford to have children.
- guard-of-terra 12y agoI don't see why most people won't eventually be priced out of having children. Do you?
- zo1 12y agoWhy would they be priced out? I'm curious why you think that. It's the first time I've heard such a view-point.
- guard-of-terra 12y agoWhy are some families are priced out now? It is historically new. Why do you think this crack won't widen? Because wealth gap won't repair itself.
- VLM 12y agoAnother interesting aspect of "poor people with kids" is downward class mobility. I'm in excellent short term financial shape now, but I'm only one major medical problem or legal problem or financial problem or work problem away from being in the same boat as these folks. Due to long term permanent economic decline for people in my socioeconomic class (not 1%), plus extensive ageism, the odds of my ending up at walmart / home depot while my kids are teens is actually pretty good, in fact its nearly certain at some point in my future, assuming I don't die at a very young age or immigrate somewhere civilized. A STEM degree in SV or Manhattan might save you, maybe, but 99% of the population isn't there and isn't STEM, so their local conditions, however nice, are completely irrelevant when discussing national policy. Any time you have, say, 20M McJobs and 40M applicants, its not going to suck just for the 20M not currently working, but its going to suck for all 40M. Come in to work at 3:30am and stop complaining or I'll find someone more cooperative. You're now on 24x7 pager duty and you will respond in 5 minutes and begin working within 30 minutes or be fired.