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> Women are massively under-used in Japan. There's no need for immigration as long as there is a large untapped segment of the population not actively employed

by tomp 12y ago

> Women are massively under-used in Japan. There's no need for immigration as long as there is a large untapped segment of the population not actively employed. How would that help? People who are not employed (not "unemployed", but they simply don't need to work) still spend money (that their working relatives make), so by having them enter the workforce, you would not increase consumption at all, while reducing the average wage (making it impossible for a single working spouse to sustain a family).

TorKlingberg 12y ago
If women also worked total family income would increase, and total family spending would probably also increase.
- tomp 12y ago
  In the short term, yes, but in the long term, that's questionable... AFAIK, 50 years ago, it was very simple to raise a middle-class family with just one working parent (in the US), whereas nowadays it's almost impossible for the majority of professions.
  - TorKlingberg 12y ago
    And you believe this is because women are working now?
ekianjo 12y ago
> The simplicity and modernity that is often seen in Western Web Design gave these users the impression of not providing enough information, which made them uneasy and engendered a lack of trust. huh, by adding another income to the family ? So, that should lead to a least a little more consumption. Even if the average wage is reduced, I doubt it would be cut by half and result in 2 people working to reach the same salary as a single person before. You are not being very realistic here, since in Western countries putting Women to work has been a very effective way to increase households' levels of life.
- tomp 12y ago
  Well, yes, it depends on the assumptions. Honestly, I have no idea how it worked out in the West, as I come from a country where 2 working parents has been the norm already for my grandparents. Maybe there is lack of production, and more employees could produce more, and hence get paid more (in average). On the other hand, (as I think you implied in another reply) there might be too many employees already, wasting time at work, and a lack of consumption. In that case, the only thing that 2 working spouses would cause is a redistribution in income (2-working-parent families would be getting comparatively more money, 1-working-parent families comparatively less).

by tomp 12y ago

TorKlingberg 12y ago

If women also worked total family income would increase, and total family spending would probably also increase.

tomp 12y ago
In the short term, yes, but in the long term, that's questionable... AFAIK, 50 years ago, it was very simple to raise a middle-class family with just one working parent (in the US), whereas nowadays it's almost impossible for the majority of professions.
- TorKlingberg 12y ago
  And you believe this is because women are working now?

ekianjo 12y ago

> The simplicity and modernity that is often seen in Western Web Design gave these users the impression of not providing enough information, which made them uneasy and engendered a lack of trust. huh, by adding another income to the family ? So, that should lead to a least a little more consumption. Even if the average wage is reduced, I doubt it would be cut by half and result in 2 people working to reach the same salary as a single person before. You are not being very realistic here, since in Western countries putting Women to work has been a very effective way to increase households' levels of life.

tomp 12y ago
Well, yes, it depends on the assumptions. Honestly, I have no idea how it worked out in the West, as I come from a country where 2 working parents has been the norm already for my grandparents. Maybe there is lack of production, and more employees could produce more, and hence get paid more (in average). On the other hand, (as I think you implied in another reply) there might be too many employees already, wasting time at work, and a lack of consumption. In that case, the only thing that 2 working spouses would cause is a redistribution in income (2-working-parent families would be getting comparatively more money, 1-working-parent families comparatively less).