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> In at least two jobs... While anecdotal trivia of your work history didn't make you feel a lack in your work environment, you're actively downplaying and try

> In at least two jobs... While anecdotal trivia of your work history didn't make you feel a lack in your work environment, you're actively downplaying and trying to make a non-issue of the lack that is viewed by your peers in the group. Why? What would you lose if more $GROUPs happened to work in your field? > make your process systematic and objective You mean the crash test dummy example? You can't automate the design of a new process, because the design of the automation in itself is the designing of a process which underlies human bias and blindness. How exactly are you going to make the process of a female being called a "scene whore" on IRC as soon as the mob find out she's female make more "systematic and objective"? I think you mixed up the different examples here.

yummyfajitas 12y ago
What would you lose if more $GROUPs happened to work in your field? Nothing. I don't care about the background of the people I work with. And if other people do, I'd suggest they should focus on work instead of tribalism. By "make your process systematic and objective", I'm referring to entry processes into tech (or whatever). E.g., judge a job candidate by their github + systematic tech interview instead of a resume + culture fit. Or hear out what a person on IRC has to say rather than spewing ad hominems.
- purerandomness 12y ago
  > Or hear out what a person on IRC has to say rather than spewing ad hominems Let me quote from the original article. "When I was 14, I found IRC, and with it, a whole subculture of people that loved the same things that I loved. [...] But the negative attention that came from being a female on IRC far outweighed anything I got from the positive. This was really my only substantial interaction with humans though, so I didn’t know it was weird. I thought that this is just how it was. I didn’t know it was wrong to treat people that way. I saw it happening to other women on IRC, too. Even though I never consciously acknowledged it, women felt like second class citizens to me. Even though my only goal was to learn, it was always a battle being taken seriously. I was constantly being called things like “scene whore” and “clueless” [...]" By the way, please read the article, and the second part.

yummyfajitas 12y ago

What would you lose if more $GROUPs happened to work in your field? Nothing. I don't care about the background of the people I work with. And if other people do, I'd suggest they should focus on work instead of tribalism. By "make your process systematic and objective", I'm referring to entry processes into tech (or whatever). E.g., judge a job candidate by their github + systematic tech interview instead of a resume + culture fit. Or hear out what a person on IRC has to say rather than spewing ad hominems.

purerandomness 12y ago
> Or hear out what a person on IRC has to say rather than spewing ad hominems Let me quote from the original article. "When I was 14, I found IRC, and with it, a whole subculture of people that loved the same things that I loved. [...] But the negative attention that came from being a female on IRC far outweighed anything I got from the positive. This was really my only substantial interaction with humans though, so I didn’t know it was weird. I thought that this is just how it was. I didn’t know it was wrong to treat people that way. I saw it happening to other women on IRC, too. Even though I never consciously acknowledged it, women felt like second class citizens to me. Even though my only goal was to learn, it was always a battle being taken seriously. I was constantly being called things like “scene whore” and “clueless” [...]" By the way, please read the article, and the second part.