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The NSA relies on executive orders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 Executive orders d
by 001sky 12y ago
The NSA relies on executive orders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333
Executive orders don't need congress to fix.
Nor are they on mid-term election ballots.
Executive Order 12333 has been regarded by the American intelligence community as a fundamental document authorizing the expansion of data collection activities.[9] The document has been employed by the National Security Agency as legal authorization for its secret systematic collection of unencrypted information flowing through the data centers of internet communications giants Google and Yahoo.[9]
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12333.html http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/execut...
- tptacek 12y agoThe NSA is primarily controlled through the executive because that's how Congress wants it; they've gone out of their way to establish laws that provide either sweeping grants of power to the executive, or regulatory/rulemaking procedures that keep Congress from having to make specific decisions about intelligence collection. It's an obvious and deliberate strategy and one that congresspeople are indeed culpable for.
- 001sky 12y agoThis is nice and all, but what's your point? The congress-people you are maligning are not in office. Meanwhile, the president could fix this easily. If he's goint to use executive authority this make more sense for that authority than immigration.
- tptacek 12y agoI don't even know how to parse this comment, let alone respond to it. "The congresspeople I'm maligning aren't in office?" That's not how it works.
- 001sky 12y agolook up the date of the executive order footnoted above... or maybe that's too difficult? you're too smart to argue from ignorance.
- tptacek 12y agoNo. What I'd bet is happening here is that you, like many people, don't really understand how an executive order works. Except in a very specific set of circumscribed cases, the President cannot overrule Congress by fiat. An executive order communicates through the President's own administration how they plan on interpreting the laws written by Congress, and how they will exercise whatever rulemaking authority Congress has delegated to their administration. If the President is declaring through executive orders an intent to ratchet up surveillance of US citizens, that is very much Congress's responsibility to resolve. The President is exercising rulemaking authority carved out by Congress. That authority --- OBVIOUSLY --- needs to be curtailed.
- 001sky 12y agoLOOK UP THE DATES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_theory#Incomplete_contracts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_theory#Incomplete_con...