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I'm in favor of Net Neutrality, but from what I've read and discussed, Title II sounds like a bad path to go down. Basically it would give the FCC all sorts of

I'm in favor of Net Neutrality, but from what I've read and discussed, Title II sounds like a bad path to go down. Basically it would give the FCC all sorts of regulatory powers we'd just have to trust they wouldn't enforce. Yeah, I got no faith on that topic.

click170 12y ago
You've got a very good point. I guess the reason I'm not as worried about it as you is because I feel like it will be easier to get the FCC to bow to public pressure (eventually?) if they do something stupid, more than I trust any of the ISPs which IMO have been behaving stupidly for quite a while now. Edit: typo
- zyxley 12y ago
  Same. I generally trust the FCC to be stupid rather than (as ISPs are right now) actively malicious.
  - webXL 12y ago
    So we give more power to an incompetent agency to solve what, exactly? To get what we pay for? Is the level of service going to improve, or will prices fall to match the current level of service? Or will service degrade and prices increase?
- nunyabuizness 12y ago
  ISPs act the way they do because they've bought the right from the "publicly accountable" people we're expecting "bow to public pressure." I personally trust GoDaddy to bow to public pressure way before the FCC.
  - landryraccoon 12y ago
    Comcast is the least popular company in the U.S. right now. I hate them and yet I still use them because the Internet options in my area are nonexistent. Why would a monopoly care at all about your public opinion?
shmerl 12y ago
At least president's proposal includes the forbearance restrictions, same which EFF proposed. I.e. FCC would get only limited scope power to regulate net neutrality issues, and not a wild card power to regulate Internet.
- mac01021 12y ago
  I still don't get it. Who is currently experiencing the problems that the proposals for net neutrality aim to solve?
  - Igglyboo 12y ago
    No one yet, other than maybe the netflix throttling that some experience. The problem if this isn't nipped in the bud now it could become much worse.
    - quanticle 12y ago
      Are you forgetting about how Comcast heavily throttled BitTorrent before the same sort of public outcry caused them to walk back their strategy?
      - Igglyboo 12y ago
        No, but that was under the guise of preventing piracy while netflix is clearly not illegal so it's more applicable to the net neutrality debate.
  - shmerl 12y ago
    Recent Netflix problems were caused by ISPs behaviour that otherwise could be prohibited. Other examples of ISPs violating net neutrality is charging different rates for different traffic on mobile networks. For instance, T-Mobile says your plan is unlimited as long as traffic goes to / from the primary device (such as your handset). But if you connect secondary device through it (for example through WiFi hotspot), your traffic will be treated differently and you'll have a monthly cap. Discriminating traffic is exactly the problem that net neutrality rules are supposed to prevent.

click170 12y ago

You've got a very good point. I guess the reason I'm not as worried about it as you is because I feel like it will be easier to get the FCC to bow to public pressure (eventually?) if they do something stupid, more than I trust any of the ISPs which IMO have been behaving stupidly for quite a while now. Edit: typo

zyxley 12y ago
Same. I generally trust the FCC to be stupid rather than (as ISPs are right now) actively malicious.
- webXL 12y ago
  So we give more power to an incompetent agency to solve what, exactly? To get what we pay for? Is the level of service going to improve, or will prices fall to match the current level of service? Or will service degrade and prices increase?
nunyabuizness 12y ago
ISPs act the way they do because they've bought the right from the "publicly accountable" people we're expecting "bow to public pressure." I personally trust GoDaddy to bow to public pressure way before the FCC.
- landryraccoon 12y ago
  Comcast is the least popular company in the U.S. right now. I hate them and yet I still use them because the Internet options in my area are nonexistent. Why would a monopoly care at all about your public opinion?

shmerl 12y ago

At least president's proposal includes the forbearance restrictions, same which EFF proposed. I.e. FCC would get only limited scope power to regulate net neutrality issues, and not a wild card power to regulate Internet.

mac01021 12y ago
I still don't get it. Who is currently experiencing the problems that the proposals for net neutrality aim to solve?
- Igglyboo 12y ago
  No one yet, other than maybe the netflix throttling that some experience. The problem if this isn't nipped in the bud now it could become much worse.
  - quanticle 12y ago
    Are you forgetting about how Comcast heavily throttled BitTorrent before the same sort of public outcry caused them to walk back their strategy?
    - Igglyboo 12y ago
      No, but that was under the guise of preventing piracy while netflix is clearly not illegal so it's more applicable to the net neutrality debate.
- shmerl 12y ago
  Recent Netflix problems were caused by ISPs behaviour that otherwise could be prohibited. Other examples of ISPs violating net neutrality is charging different rates for different traffic on mobile networks. For instance, T-Mobile says your plan is unlimited as long as traffic goes to / from the primary device (such as your handset). But if you connect secondary device through it (for example through WiFi hotspot), your traffic will be treated differently and you'll have a monthly cap. Discriminating traffic is exactly the problem that net neutrality rules are supposed to prevent.