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So, to clarify something: you connect to the VPN, and the VPN connects to TOR. If you do it the other way around (as you point out) it's pretty worthless. If yo
by hawkice 12y ago
So, to clarify something: you connect to the VPN, and the VPN connects to TOR. If you do it the other way around (as you point out) it's pretty worthless. If you connect to TOR from the VPN then the most de-anonymized you are going to get is "customer of this VPN provider".
As for paying for services such that "customer of this VPN provider" can't be linked to you, I'd look at places that specifically accept bitcoin (I'm not a fan in general, but in this case, it signals their willingness to avoid collecting normal billing data like name, address, cc#, etc.).
https://proxy.sh/ https://proxy.sh/
I have no affiliation but they popped up in the googlings. Seems to be simple enough to get their service without giving away anything personally identifiable.
EDIT: the reason I tease out those two parts is because I'm concerned people will think TOR can protect against entities that can do a global customer-of-VPN dereference. TOR doesn't protect against global super-adversaries, consult your local security practitioner before feeling safe, etc. etc.
- onewaystreet 12y agoVPN -> TOR is wrong. Think about what happens if the VPN gets owned or seized. The bottom line is if your need for anonymity isn't just fantasy (i.e. you are actually a target of law enforcement) then no layer of your protection should be an IP that is connected to your real identity or location.
- escapologybb 12y agoI am unsure at this VPN -> TOR notification, would you mind clarifying it for me please? At the moment if I start up my VPN client and wait for the connection to my very trustworthy VPN provider, and only then open to Tor Browser Bundle, is that the right way round? Thanks for the clarification.
- bluedino 12y agoThat's at least another layer for the people trying to find you to go through.
- chatmasta 12y agoAnonymous VPN is pretty easy. Bitcoin, or if not, VCC is all you need.