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FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE images are available

47 points by fcambus 12y ago

tedunangst 12y ago
Why do people link to ftp directories and not release announcements?
- jmartinpetersen 12y ago
  Probably because it hasn't been announced yet. Which begs the question why it was linked at all. There's not much to discuss or see.
codeaken 12y ago
FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE Announcement: Some of the highlights: - GCC is no longer installed by default on architectures where clang(1) is the default compiler. - Unbound has been imported to the base system as the local caching DNS resolver. - BIND has been removed from the base system. - make(1) has been replaced with bmake(1), obtained from the NetBSD Project. - pkg(7) is now the default package management utility. - pkg_add(1), pkg_delete(1), and related tools have been removed. - Major enhancements in virtualization, including the addition of bhyve(8), virtio(4), and native paravirtualized drivers providing support for FreeBSD as a guest operating system on Microsoft Hyper-V. - TRIM support for Solid State Drives has been added to ZFS. - Support for the high-performance LZ4 compression algorithm has been added to ZFS. Full details: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html
- emaste 12y ago
  That is the 10.0 release announcement. The directory linked here is not-yet-released 10.1. As always, until the release announcement comes out, the release is not done. Until that time, there's always a possibility the release builds will need to be rebuilt for some reason.
- jmartinpetersen 12y ago
  That was for 10.0, this is someone thinking that 10.1 being available on FTP is interesting enough that we should all look at the ISO files. The release notes will probably be https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html - skimming through it reinforces that this is a minor release. There's fixes for security advisories, hardware driver updates and kernel tweaks.
mziulu 12y ago
Can I upgrade my (toy) VPS using freebsd-update? Or is the procedure different?
- jonhohle 12y ago
  I always do. It helps to have a virtual KVM in case anything goes wrong, but I've never seen it during updates.
  - mziulu 12y ago
    Thanks, I'll try in the weekend!
- danieldk 12y ago
  Which VPS provider do you use for FreeBSD. Does anyone have recommendations?
  - mziulu 12y ago
    I use hetzner, I don't have a lot of necessities right now (I use it as git repo and as firefox sync server), but I'm very happy with it.
    - benjohnson 12y ago
      Seconded on Hetzner - they have a really nice ZFS on root install system.
    - illbert 12y ago
      How did you set up the FF sync server? I just did a quick search and I think the instructions I've found were mostly outdated. Do you have a link or a name for the port? I also enjoyed hetzner for a while and if I'd want a ZFS install I'd probably go with them as it's definitely very nice how they do it. But as I've just previously commented I found a slightly better price for my minimum needs with vultr.com (5$/per month) and ZFS is not important to me on this box.
custardcream 12y ago
I wonder if DHCP works on Hyper-V again now (it didn't for the 10.0 cycle which was a PITA)
- lewinski 12y ago
  If you set the interface to SYNCDHCP instead of DHCP it seems to work fine.
  - custardcream 12y ago
    Excellent. Thanks for the tip.
tiffanyh 12y ago
I really love FreeBSD but having 3 different PRODUCTION branches is getting insane (10.3, 9.3, 8.4). I only run RELEASE. When I run into production issues, the developers say they have fixed my issue in CURRENT but never release a point update to RELEASE ... means forces me to have to wait until the next MAJOR release for it to be fixed. Feels like FreeBSD, even though I love all it does, is becoming more and more just for developers. We need more minor point releases and less major releases. The following link from 2 years ago is still very applicable today. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2012-January/037294.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2012-Janu...
- emaste 12y ago
  I don't follow; fixes making it only into -CURRENT is certainly an issue, but slowing down the major release cadence will make it take even longer for those to reach you. Ensuring fixes make it into release branches is something we need to (and are working to) improve. If you're able, we would very much appreciate community effort in helping to merge and test bugfixes to stable branches. Supporting the FreeBSD Foundation also helps to ensure there are resources to help make this a reality. Any change to major release cadence, minor release cadence, branch lifetime, and access to new features implies a tradeoff against the others, as is clear in reading through the responses in the thread you link.
- farawayea 12y ago
  FreeBSD's approach to releases is stupid. Releases like 10.1.1, 10.1.2, 9.3.1 and 8.4.1 should be done. Only big vendors have the resources to maintain their own patched systems they can use in production.
blutgens 12y ago
I'd love to see a LIVE usb stick of this. I'm not really willing to nuke my file systems on my personal laptop only to find out after install that video or wireless card doesn't work right.
- emaste 12y ago
  You can use the memstick image to boot and check hardware without installing.

47 points by fcambus 12y ago

tedunangst 12y ago

Why do people link to ftp directories and not release announcements?

jmartinpetersen 12y ago
Probably because it hasn't been announced yet. Which begs the question why it was linked at all. There's not much to discuss or see.

codeaken 12y ago

FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE Announcement: Some of the highlights: - GCC is no longer installed by default on architectures where clang(1) is the default compiler. - Unbound has been imported to the base system as the local caching DNS resolver. - BIND has been removed from the base system. - make(1) has been replaced with bmake(1), obtained from the NetBSD Project. - pkg(7) is now the default package management utility. - pkg_add(1), pkg_delete(1), and related tools have been removed. - Major enhancements in virtualization, including the addition of bhyve(8), virtio(4), and native paravirtualized drivers providing support for FreeBSD as a guest operating system on Microsoft Hyper-V. - TRIM support for Solid State Drives has been added to ZFS. - Support for the high-performance LZ4 compression algorithm has been added to ZFS. Full details: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html

emaste 12y ago
That is the 10.0 release announcement. The directory linked here is not-yet-released 10.1. As always, until the release announcement comes out, the release is not done. Until that time, there's always a possibility the release builds will need to be rebuilt for some reason.
jmartinpetersen 12y ago
That was for 10.0, this is someone thinking that 10.1 being available on FTP is interesting enough that we should all look at the ISO files. The release notes will probably be https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html - skimming through it reinforces that this is a minor release. There's fixes for security advisories, hardware driver updates and kernel tweaks.

mziulu 12y ago

Can I upgrade my (toy) VPS using freebsd-update? Or is the procedure different?

jonhohle 12y ago
I always do. It helps to have a virtual KVM in case anything goes wrong, but I've never seen it during updates.
- mziulu 12y ago
  Thanks, I'll try in the weekend!
danieldk 12y ago
Which VPS provider do you use for FreeBSD. Does anyone have recommendations?
- mziulu 12y ago
  I use hetzner, I don't have a lot of necessities right now (I use it as git repo and as firefox sync server), but I'm very happy with it.
  - benjohnson 12y ago
    Seconded on Hetzner - they have a really nice ZFS on root install system.
  - illbert 12y ago
    How did you set up the FF sync server? I just did a quick search and I think the instructions I've found were mostly outdated. Do you have a link or a name for the port? I also enjoyed hetzner for a while and if I'd want a ZFS install I'd probably go with them as it's definitely very nice how they do it. But as I've just previously commented I found a slightly better price for my minimum needs with vultr.com (5$/per month) and ZFS is not important to me on this box.

custardcream 12y ago

I wonder if DHCP works on Hyper-V again now (it didn't for the 10.0 cycle which was a PITA)

lewinski 12y ago
If you set the interface to SYNCDHCP instead of DHCP it seems to work fine.
- custardcream 12y ago
  Excellent. Thanks for the tip.

tiffanyh 12y ago

I really love FreeBSD but having 3 different PRODUCTION branches is getting insane (10.3, 9.3, 8.4). I only run RELEASE. When I run into production issues, the developers say they have fixed my issue in CURRENT but never release a point update to RELEASE ... means forces me to have to wait until the next MAJOR release for it to be fixed. Feels like FreeBSD, even though I love all it does, is becoming more and more just for developers. We need more minor point releases and less major releases. The following link from 2 years ago is still very applicable today. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2012-January/037294.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2012-Janu...

emaste 12y ago
I don't follow; fixes making it only into -CURRENT is certainly an issue, but slowing down the major release cadence will make it take even longer for those to reach you. Ensuring fixes make it into release branches is something we need to (and are working to) improve. If you're able, we would very much appreciate community effort in helping to merge and test bugfixes to stable branches. Supporting the FreeBSD Foundation also helps to ensure there are resources to help make this a reality. Any change to major release cadence, minor release cadence, branch lifetime, and access to new features implies a tradeoff against the others, as is clear in reading through the responses in the thread you link.
farawayea 12y ago
FreeBSD's approach to releases is stupid. Releases like 10.1.1, 10.1.2, 9.3.1 and 8.4.1 should be done. Only big vendors have the resources to maintain their own patched systems they can use in production.

blutgens 12y ago

I'd love to see a LIVE usb stick of this. I'm not really willing to nuke my file systems on my personal laptop only to find out after install that video or wireless card doesn't work right.

emaste 12y ago
You can use the memstick image to boot and check hardware without installing.