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Musk wants to colonize and live in Mars and Page is the most ambitious CEO of the universe?

by goshx 12y ago

duaneb 12y ago
Let's talk when Musk achieves one of his goals :P And no, I don't think musk is more ambitious than page; they are just headed different places.
- bjelkeman-again 12y ago
  Seriously I would consider Musk an Co have achieved several of their goals. Each one being the step on the way to a bigger goal.
  - duaneb 12y ago
    Maybe, but so has Page—a self-driving car, a box where you can basically ask a question, the first major piece of wearable electronics after the watch—this aren't trivial. And yet, it doesn't impress me much more than Musk's existing achievements have—they're both in edison territory at the moment—brilliant businessmen—not Gutenberg, world-changing level yet.
    - Igglyboo 12y ago
      Agreed, Google does a ton of things extremely well but the world would be more or less the same with subpar search or subpar youtube from some other company. If they can realize the self driving car or get everyone wearing glass then they've changed the world.
    - bjelkeman-again 12y ago
      Tesla is on the forefront of getting the car industry to accept something they said couldn't be done. Battery powered cars. This will change the world, or maybe be required step for us to not wreck it.
- ameister14 12y ago
  Well, let's see: private rocket company sending stuff to the international space station, fastest production sedan and it's electric, made electric cars cool. Some of the goals seem to be accomplished.
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mfisher87 12y ago
Yeah, in the universe. More ambitious even than Glorblax, creator of the monoliths. Why does anyone ever continue reading an article after a headline like that? Nothing can follow except a thoughtless a puff piece.
- rattray 12y ago
  > Why does _anyone_ Some people like puff pieces, or don't spend much time worrying about whether Glorblax got his fair recognition. (Personally, I agree with you)
- graycat 12y ago
  I nearly posted my standard view of Fortune but relented. But with your comment, here goes! My view of Fortune is that they have a formula for such articles. First glance, the article seems to be to provide information to the readers, say, as in "this is what this really successful guy does that you, the reader, might learn from and find useful in your work in business". But my view is that this first glance is nearly totally wrong. Instead the formula for the articles is not to provide useful, or even very solid, information at all. Instead, the formula is a manipulation of the reader: The reader is made to feel good about themselves. How? The article makes the subject's work look simple, definitely like the reader can easily see themselves doing the same. Then the reader feels like they are on the right track, that is, already doing as well as the subject of the article. So, the article passes out a lot of simplistic insights, cliches, trivialities, etc. that any reader can agree that they could have done. Really it is best for the formula if the reader comes away learning nothing at all; that is, part of the formula is to make the reader conclude that they are already on the right track, already know as much as the subject in the article, could easily do just what the subject does, and, thus, are on the way also to being worth billions. So, a main goal is that the reader learn nothing! So, are making the reader feel good by confirming that the simplistic thoughts that they can easily already have really are the right stuff. Or, such an article is vicarious, escapist, fantasy, emotional experience entertainment (VEFEEE). And that's the article. The formula is to manipulate the reader into coming back for more, thinking that, "I'm reading Fortune and, thus, learning from the best Captains of Business; oh, oh, oh, I'm learning so much; and, since these guys are worth billions, I can be, too.". I concluded all this long ago. I am surprised to see Fortune still following the same old formula. Heck, I kept reading to the end just to see if they had any significant content beyond their old formula -- they didn't. So, net, I gave up on Fortune for years, and now I'll give up on the Web version for more years! What a big pile of nutten, deliberately, very carefully crafted, total nutten! "Thoughtless" you say! How kind you are!
CmonDev 12y ago
I'd rather live forever than on Mars.
- kamaal 12y ago
  And that way you can live on Mars some day. :) Actually we must let people make progress where ever they are interested. After all the guy who built the first brick didn't know someday they would used to build pyramids.

Musk wants to colonize and live in Mars and Page is the most ambitious CEO of the universe?

by goshx 12y ago

Musk wants to colonize and live in Mars and Page is the most ambitious CEO of the universe?

Let's talk when Musk achieves one of his goals :P And no, I don't think musk is more ambitious than page; they are just headed different places.

bjelkeman-again 12y ago
Seriously I would consider Musk an Co have achieved several of their goals. Each one being the step on the way to a bigger goal.
- duaneb 12y ago
  Maybe, but so has Page—a self-driving car, a box where you can basically ask a question, the first major piece of wearable electronics after the watch—this aren't trivial. And yet, it doesn't impress me much more than Musk's existing achievements have—they're both in edison territory at the moment—brilliant businessmen—not Gutenberg, world-changing level yet.
  - Igglyboo 12y ago
    Agreed, Google does a ton of things extremely well but the world would be more or less the same with subpar search or subpar youtube from some other company. If they can realize the self driving car or get everyone wearing glass then they've changed the world.
  - bjelkeman-again 12y ago
    Tesla is on the forefront of getting the car industry to accept something they said couldn't be done. Battery powered cars. This will change the world, or maybe be required step for us to not wreck it.
ameister14 12y ago
Well, let's see: private rocket company sending stuff to the international space station, fastest production sedan and it's electric, made electric cars cool. Some of the goals seem to be accomplished.

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mfisher87 12y ago

Yeah, in the universe. More ambitious even than Glorblax, creator of the monoliths. Why does anyone ever continue reading an article after a headline like that? Nothing can follow except a thoughtless a puff piece.

rattray 12y ago
> Why does _anyone_ Some people like puff pieces, or don't spend much time worrying about whether Glorblax got his fair recognition. (Personally, I agree with you)
graycat 12y ago
I nearly posted my standard view of Fortune but relented. But with your comment, here goes! My view of Fortune is that they have a formula for such articles. First glance, the article seems to be to provide information to the readers, say, as in "this is what this really successful guy does that you, the reader, might learn from and find useful in your work in business". But my view is that this first glance is nearly totally wrong. Instead the formula for the articles is not to provide useful, or even very solid, information at all. Instead, the formula is a manipulation of the reader: The reader is made to feel good about themselves. How? The article makes the subject's work look simple, definitely like the reader can easily see themselves doing the same. Then the reader feels like they are on the right track, that is, already doing as well as the subject of the article. So, the article passes out a lot of simplistic insights, cliches, trivialities, etc. that any reader can agree that they could have done. Really it is best for the formula if the reader comes away learning nothing at all; that is, part of the formula is to make the reader conclude that they are already on the right track, already know as much as the subject in the article, could easily do just what the subject does, and, thus, are on the way also to being worth billions. So, a main goal is that the reader learn nothing! So, are making the reader feel good by confirming that the simplistic thoughts that they can easily already have really are the right stuff. Or, such an article is vicarious, escapist, fantasy, emotional experience entertainment (VEFEEE). And that's the article. The formula is to manipulate the reader into coming back for more, thinking that, "I'm reading Fortune and, thus, learning from the best Captains of Business; oh, oh, oh, I'm learning so much; and, since these guys are worth billions, I can be, too.". I concluded all this long ago. I am surprised to see Fortune still following the same old formula. Heck, I kept reading to the end just to see if they had any significant content beyond their old formula -- they didn't. So, net, I gave up on Fortune for years, and now I'll give up on the Web version for more years! What a big pile of nutten, deliberately, very carefully crafted, total nutten! "Thoughtless" you say! How kind you are!

CmonDev 12y ago

I'd rather live forever than on Mars.

kamaal 12y ago
And that way you can live on Mars some day. :) Actually we must let people make progress where ever they are interested. After all the guy who built the first brick didn't know someday they would used to build pyramids.