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He was being honest and I actually respect him more for putting a former employee that obviously was trying to get sympathy from the Reddit community, in his pl

He was being honest and I actually respect him more for putting a former employee that obviously was trying to get sympathy from the Reddit community, in his place.

Cookingboy 12y ago
Was he being completely honest? It was really a case of his words against another's words, and we don't know which parts were true or half-true or plain lies, from either party.
reduce 12y ago
Reddit is a magnet for people who have an unhealthy appetite for over dramatic "justice porn." That's all I'm going to say about your feelings.
- serve_yay 12y ago
  No kidding.
BinaryIdiot 12y ago
No this is not something to respect someone for. This is unprofessional and a liability; if anything Yishan said wasn't documented and documented really well the OP has a libel case. It doesn't even matter how true it was. He also publicly spoke out about someone's work ethic and performance of which we're only getting one side of the story anyway. If his real name is associated with his reddit profile then future employers will see the CEO of a public internet company lambasting him. Whether it's deserved or not at the time is irrelevant; there are plenty of people who, for one reason or another, do terrible at a job and later are highly valued. This could ruin any attempt at redemption.
- turnip1979 12y ago
  Total outsider and I felt very uncomfortable how the dirty laundry was being aired publicly. I don't get this new model of business in the Bay area. One person posts stuff online. Then someone posts something online as a rebuttal. Don't these people realize stuff online stays with you forever and has consequences? Heck .. I change accounts every little while on HN (losing all my precious karma) to make sure I don't mess up in some way.
  - bane 12y ago
    > Don't these people realize stuff online stays with you forever and has consequences? I call it "thinking with your tattoos". People simply aren't cognizant that decisions and actions have long-term consequences. You may really want that tattoo on your face, but it will make you virtually unemployable for the rest of your life. They're simply unable to project out complex interactions of consequences, their brain simply can't do the calculus or views it as overstimulus or something simply filters out everything to do with long-term planning and executive function.
- stream_fusion 12y ago
  CEO exercised right-of-reply to potentially tortious statements from the employee. Also public interest.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > if anything Yishan said wasn't documented and documented really well the OP has a libel case. It doesn't even matter how true it was. In the U.S. it does, since untruth is a required element of libel.
  - BinaryIdiot 12y ago
    > In the U.S. it does, since untruth is a required element of libel. The employer would have to prove it's true in a suit hence my comment. Paper trails are king.
metaphorm 12y ago
I thought that was one of the most unprofessional and disrespectful things I've ever seen any CEO do. It was childish and rash and deeply unfair given the huge power asymmetry between a CEO and a former employee.
imgabe 12y ago
"putting someone in their place" and "wise public statement from company executive" rarely go together.
LordHumungous 12y ago
In a situation like this don't trust the manager to have an unbiased take on the matter anymore than the employee. I've known bosses who disliked an employee for personal reasons and managed to convince themselves that the employee was lazy/incompetent/whatever else as a justification for firing them.

He was being honest and I actually respect him more for putting a former employee that obviously was trying to get sympathy from the Reddit community, in his place.

Cookingboy 12y ago

Was he being completely honest? It was really a case of his words against another's words, and we don't know which parts were true or half-true or plain lies, from either party.

reduce 12y ago

Reddit is a magnet for people who have an unhealthy appetite for over dramatic "justice porn." That's all I'm going to say about your feelings.

serve_yay 12y ago
No kidding.

BinaryIdiot 12y ago

No this is not something to respect someone for. This is unprofessional and a liability; if anything Yishan said wasn't documented and documented really well the OP has a libel case. It doesn't even matter how true it was. He also publicly spoke out about someone's work ethic and performance of which we're only getting one side of the story anyway. If his real name is associated with his reddit profile then future employers will see the CEO of a public internet company lambasting him. Whether it's deserved or not at the time is irrelevant; there are plenty of people who, for one reason or another, do terrible at a job and later are highly valued. This could ruin any attempt at redemption.

turnip1979 12y ago
Total outsider and I felt very uncomfortable how the dirty laundry was being aired publicly. I don't get this new model of business in the Bay area. One person posts stuff online. Then someone posts something online as a rebuttal. Don't these people realize stuff online stays with you forever and has consequences? Heck .. I change accounts every little while on HN (losing all my precious karma) to make sure I don't mess up in some way.
- bane 12y ago
  > Don't these people realize stuff online stays with you forever and has consequences? I call it "thinking with your tattoos". People simply aren't cognizant that decisions and actions have long-term consequences. You may really want that tattoo on your face, but it will make you virtually unemployable for the rest of your life. They're simply unable to project out complex interactions of consequences, their brain simply can't do the calculus or views it as overstimulus or something simply filters out everything to do with long-term planning and executive function.
stream_fusion 12y ago
CEO exercised right-of-reply to potentially tortious statements from the employee. Also public interest.
dragonwriter 12y ago
> if anything Yishan said wasn't documented and documented really well the OP has a libel case. It doesn't even matter how true it was. In the U.S. it does, since untruth is a required element of libel.
- BinaryIdiot 12y ago
  > In the U.S. it does, since untruth is a required element of libel. The employer would have to prove it's true in a suit hence my comment. Paper trails are king.

metaphorm 12y ago

I thought that was one of the most unprofessional and disrespectful things I've ever seen any CEO do. It was childish and rash and deeply unfair given the huge power asymmetry between a CEO and a former employee.

imgabe 12y ago

"putting someone in their place" and "wise public statement from company executive" rarely go together.

LordHumungous 12y ago

In a situation like this don't trust the manager to have an unbiased take on the matter anymore than the employee. I've known bosses who disliked an employee for personal reasons and managed to convince themselves that the employee was lazy/incompetent/whatever else as a justification for firing them.