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Why are you telling us about it? Why don't you be the leader? Let us know what we can do to help you in the plan you've developed to solve the problem.

chris123 17y ago
I live in Sweden, now (from Washington, DC, where I made these http://tr.im/ADXe http://tr.im/ADXe after Bush's "re-election"). I'm just trying to stir the pot from here :) -Chris PS: "Mad as hell" speech from "Network": http://tr.im/madashellvideo http://tr.im/madashellvideo (YouTube)
NathanKP 17y ago
Clearly he doesn't have the millions of dollars and high class lawyers and lobbyists that the meat companies have. Individuals can do little to combat such huge companies. What can he, or any one of us, do? We might start a website condemning the companies for their practices, we might write senators or try to get laws passed, but American government is not a true democracy, and it is not really ruled by the people. The businesses have far too much power for individuals to fight effectively. Of course this is my own pessimistic view, but I believe it is realistic.
- chris123 17y ago
  We can take it to the streets. You may think I'm kidding; I'm not. http://twitpic.com/k8qjl http://twitpic.com/k8qjl (Banksy street art: "change")
  - NathanKP 17y ago
    I definitely approve of Banksy but you have to admit that graffiti street art doesn't change much. The big corporations are just going to laugh, say "how cute", and then pressure the local government to destroy the graffiti art because it is vandalism. Many of Banksy's art pieces have been removed in that very manner.
    - gaius 17y ago
      Banksy is a mainstream commercial artist now, he sells his work at Sotheby's, who mainly deal in traditional oil paintings. Was his "graffiti" just a clever marketing campaign?
      - NathanKP 17y ago
        I think it was a little bit of both: half clever marketing campaign, half a plea for change and an exposure of corruption.
    - chris123 17y ago
      Yes, I was talking about people taking it to the streets, not th Banksy, which was/is just an image I like, regardless of if he's "sold out," as they say. Sorry for any confusion. For me, anyway, this horse is pretty well dead and beaten, so I leave it to you guys to carry on. Real and rehotorical question: Would you participate in a mass protest standing up for others? Have you? Will you? How about organize one? Would/have/will/am now? If we don't stand up for each other... You know how that story ends (See "First they came").

chris123 17y ago

I live in Sweden, now (from Washington, DC, where I made these http://tr.im/ADXe http://tr.im/ADXe after Bush's "re-election"). I'm just trying to stir the pot from here :) -Chris PS: "Mad as hell" speech from "Network": http://tr.im/madashellvideo http://tr.im/madashellvideo (YouTube)

NathanKP 17y ago

Clearly he doesn't have the millions of dollars and high class lawyers and lobbyists that the meat companies have. Individuals can do little to combat such huge companies. What can he, or any one of us, do? We might start a website condemning the companies for their practices, we might write senators or try to get laws passed, but American government is not a true democracy, and it is not really ruled by the people. The businesses have far too much power for individuals to fight effectively. Of course this is my own pessimistic view, but I believe it is realistic.

chris123 17y ago
We can take it to the streets. You may think I'm kidding; I'm not. http://twitpic.com/k8qjl http://twitpic.com/k8qjl (Banksy street art: "change")
- NathanKP 17y ago
  I definitely approve of Banksy but you have to admit that graffiti street art doesn't change much. The big corporations are just going to laugh, say "how cute", and then pressure the local government to destroy the graffiti art because it is vandalism. Many of Banksy's art pieces have been removed in that very manner.
  - gaius 17y ago
    Banksy is a mainstream commercial artist now, he sells his work at Sotheby's, who mainly deal in traditional oil paintings. Was his "graffiti" just a clever marketing campaign?
    - NathanKP 17y ago
      I think it was a little bit of both: half clever marketing campaign, half a plea for change and an exposure of corruption.
  - chris123 17y ago
    Yes, I was talking about people taking it to the streets, not th Banksy, which was/is just an image I like, regardless of if he's "sold out," as they say. Sorry for any confusion. For me, anyway, this horse is pretty well dead and beaten, so I leave it to you guys to carry on. Real and rehotorical question: Would you participate in a mass protest standing up for others? Have you? Will you? How about organize one? Would/have/will/am now? If we don't stand up for each other... You know how that story ends (See "First they came").