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Ethics prevent a real study where you lock the fatties in a cage and accurately measure the calories eaten. Fatties lie like a pro when it comes to dieting.

• prostoalex 12y ago
  And yet when calorie restriction is done through restricting carbohydrates, the results are much more convincing http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/
  • toomuchtodo 12y ago
    And if PubMed isn't your cup of tea, just head over to https://www.reddit.com/r/keto https://www.reddit.com/r/keto, unless you think those ~125K subreddit members are just lying. Not all calories are the same. I myself lost almost 40lbs on the keto diet (~200 to start, now around 160lbs). 31, male, sedentary IT worker. NO EXERCISE. I eat everything except carbs (fruit, beer, anything with sugars).
    • monksy 12y ago
      Beer and alcohol has quite a lot of sugar.
      • jeremysmyth 12y ago
        Alcohol doesn't contain sugar. Rather, it replaces glucose in the blood and can be used directly as a fuel without any conversion. This is unlike in low-carb diets, where fat must be converted to a fuel (via gluconeogenesis) before cells can use it as energy, and this conversion itself takes energy. Effectively, alcohol reduces the benefit of low-carb diets but doesn't necessarily increase the insulin response as would a high-sugar diet.
      • toomuchtodo 12y ago
        My typing mistake. Those items I listed were what I don't eat. Beer has quite a bit of sugar, but hard alcohols do not. http://www.thespartanwarrior.com/post/6355061720/lowcarbvsalcohol http://www.thespartanwarrior.com/post/6355061720/lowcarbvsal...