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Until MS makes VS 20XX Professional cross-platform and free, I don't think they'll get much traction. I gave the a shot when I still used Windows via the Expres

Until MS makes VS 20XX Professional cross-platform and free, I don't think they'll get much traction. I gave the a shot when I still used Windows via the Express editions. The fact that I had to jump between 3 editors to do anything and still didn't get NUnit integration is ridiculous. Many languages can use the Eclipse, IntelliJ or Netbeans platform. The JVM provides a true multi-platform target as a first class idea. MS might be trying to do this, but they are really behind. I wonder if the world's most past.

Scuds 12y ago
From: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AnnouncingNET2015NETAsOpenSourceNETOnMacAndLinuxAndVisualStudioCommunity.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AnnouncingNET2015NETAsOpenSour... "There is a new FREE SKU for Visual Studio for open source developers and students called Visual Studio Community. It supports extensions and lots more all in one download. This is not Express. This is basically Pro."
- virmundi 12y ago
  See... I'm neither. I'm a single developer working on mostly closed source projects. As a result, I don't benefit too much from that. Also, I have a Mac and an Ubuntu laptop. So again, not much love from MS. Now I admit this is the early days of their open source push. That's fine. But until they make VS Pro free, across the board, I doubt non-MS shops will really pickup the platform. There isn't much of a win without VS. Heck, most MS devs are so VS centric that you'll probably get nothing but confused looks if you did use an alternative IDE and said that during an interview.
  - numo16 12y ago
    > See... I'm neither. I'm a single developer working on mostly closed source projects. From the actual site for VS Community [0]: > Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Sounds to me like you do fit in that category for this edition of VS. That being said, .NET development definitely does still seem very VS centric, but things seem to be changing. The experience of using sublime text + omnisharp[1] doesn't look too bad. [0]: http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-community-vs http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-com... [1]: http://www.omnisharp.net/ http://www.omnisharp.net/
  - shanselman 12y ago
    If you are less than 5 developers ;) then you're good. Check the details!
  - Rapzid 12y ago
    It depends on what you're using it for.. I use Xamarin Studio(monodevelop) to work on a bunch of stuff. It works great. It falls down a bit trying to do ASP.NET stuff, but with the new open source push, ASP.NET vNext etc, this should get much better.
elektronjunge 12y ago
They have opened up the source on large chunks of the .net family compilers. Developing a decent ide on top of Rosalyn should relatively easy (as developing an ide could be). And while Rosalyn ides won't be as good as visual studio, Rosalyn should give them a fairly significant leg up.

Scuds 12y ago

From: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AnnouncingNET2015NETAsOpenSourceNETOnMacAndLinuxAndVisualStudioCommunity.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AnnouncingNET2015NETAsOpenSour... "There is a new FREE SKU for Visual Studio for open source developers and students called Visual Studio Community. It supports extensions and lots more all in one download. This is not Express. This is basically Pro."

virmundi 12y ago
See... I'm neither. I'm a single developer working on mostly closed source projects. As a result, I don't benefit too much from that. Also, I have a Mac and an Ubuntu laptop. So again, not much love from MS. Now I admit this is the early days of their open source push. That's fine. But until they make VS Pro free, across the board, I doubt non-MS shops will really pickup the platform. There isn't much of a win without VS. Heck, most MS devs are so VS centric that you'll probably get nothing but confused looks if you did use an alternative IDE and said that during an interview.
- numo16 12y ago
  > See... I'm neither. I'm a single developer working on mostly closed source projects. From the actual site for VS Community [0]: > Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Sounds to me like you do fit in that category for this edition of VS. That being said, .NET development definitely does still seem very VS centric, but things seem to be changing. The experience of using sublime text + omnisharp[1] doesn't look too bad. [0]: http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-community-vs http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-com... [1]: http://www.omnisharp.net/ http://www.omnisharp.net/
- shanselman 12y ago
  If you are less than 5 developers ;) then you're good. Check the details!
- Rapzid 12y ago
  It depends on what you're using it for.. I use Xamarin Studio(monodevelop) to work on a bunch of stuff. It works great. It falls down a bit trying to do ASP.NET stuff, but with the new open source push, ASP.NET vNext etc, this should get much better.

elektronjunge 12y ago

They have opened up the source on large chunks of the .net family compilers. Developing a decent ide on top of Rosalyn should relatively easy (as developing an ide could be). And while Rosalyn ides won't be as good as visual studio, Rosalyn should give them a fairly significant leg up.