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What article was that? I'd love to go and dig to see what kind of bot would go so hilariously wrong.

by Mithaldu 12y ago

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- jackcarter 12y ago
  Check your browser extensions. You might have one installed that invisibly changes 'disruption' to 'bullshitting.'
  - Domenic_S 12y ago
    This is classic if true...
    - Natsu 12y ago
      Classic? I think you mean clbuttic :) (ass -> butt)
  - phaemon 12y ago
    Hehe, I think you've nailed it. What was the username of the person? (they've deleted their comments, rather than just admitting they screwed up).
  - 6chars 12y ago
    This could be the culprit: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/disrupt-to-bullshit/mahaemfhlcjficbbkbpmkbhhenfnikcf?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/disrupt-to-bullshi...
- Domenic_S 12y ago
  I'm not seeing it. I see you change "disruption" to "shifting" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623181742&oldid=623041975 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... and then Monkbot changed it back to "disruption", not ClueBotNG. Cluebot actually reverted someone else's vandalism and restored your version (your spellcheck'd version) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=625593375&oldid=625593366 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... Maybe the problem is that the changelog is too hard for casuals to parse?
- deathanatos 12y ago
  Are you (or am I?) reading the changelog right? Your edits (while harmless, in my opinion) don't match up with your edit messages. The bot you name isn't the one that reverted you (but Cluebot does get involved later). The bot reverted two anonymous edits, so I can't truly tell if they're yours, but you yell at the bot, so I presume so. Edit 1: anonymous IPv6 addr removes the word "also"; article makes sense with and without it. No edit message. Edit 2: anonymous IPv4 addr changes the word "disruption" to "shifting"; article makes grammatical sense either way, unclear to me which is better. Message is "Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been." This is the change that the message doesn't seem to match up with the content, specifically, this diff[2]. Edit 3: "Monkbot" reverts the previous two edits. Perhaps a tad strange, but the edits were strange and from IP addrs. Edit 4: You log in, and yell at the bot[3], "Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been. Thank you for undoing my last edit you stupid bot, I'm trying to removed page defacements NOT ADD THEM." However, this edit again doesn't match the message, and (again) changes the word "disruption" to (this time) "shiftingting" (an honest typo which you correct immediately), and also changes the minus sign on a temperature to a hypen. Edit 5: Your spell correction. Edit 6: Someone experimenting (anon IPv4) adds "hello". Edit 7: Same IP changes "hello" to "booooooooty" Edit 8: Clue Bot NG reverts _to_ your edit, undoing the previous two edits (but leaves your changes) — definitely the correct action. [1]: I'm starting from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=prev&oldid=623041975 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=prev&oldid=623181742 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=next&oldid=623197577 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ...
- Zikes 12y ago
  I have a hard time parsing those logs, but from what I can tell you kept trying to change "disruption" to "shifting". I even went to a year-old version of the article (you said the typo had been there since 2009) and did a search on the page for "shi" and couldn't find it, but "disruption" was still there. I suspect you had some sort of toy browser extension that swapped words, a la Cloud to Butt [1]. [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus...
- xxxyy 12y ago
  Can you point to the specific edit you made that has been reverted by the bot? I can see [1] that your first edit to the article "Thermohaline circulation" was a one-word edit and was introducing a non-existent word 'shiftingting', thus being incorrect. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Valarauca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Valarauc...
- Animats 12y ago
  Ah. Part of the problem is that you haven't registered for a Wikipedia account. ClueBot NG, which is a machine learning system, uses information from your track record as an editor as one of its inputs. Editing anonymously, you have no reputation.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    The person had registered an account.
    - Animats 12y ago
      Not at first. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... All the actions by ClueBot NG in that article in the last year applied to edits from unregistered users. The edit by [173.14.38.69]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623181742&oldid=623041975 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... (Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been.) changed "disruption" to "shifting", an edit inconsistent with the edit comment. The word "bullshitting" did not appear. That was reverted by human user "Vsmith" (a user with over 100,000 edits), not a 'bot. Then, this edit by user "Valarauca": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623873692&oldid=623197577 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... (Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been. Thank you for undoing my last edit you stupid bot, I'm trying to removed page defacements NOT ADD THEM.) changed an em dash to an en dash, and "disrupting" to "shiftingting". That botch is fixed in the next edit by user "Valarauca": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623873812&oldid=623873692 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... (Spellling correction on previous change.) "Shifting" then stayed in the article. The Wikipedia processes and 'bots handled this just fine. The cause of the problem was a non-useful edit comment on an edit of marginal quality.
      - DanBC 12y ago
        The person who started this thread, posting to HN, was always using a logged in account on Wikipedia.
VLM 12y ago
Are the comments being deleted here on HN a meta joke about deletionist misbehavior on wikipedia? Depending on the answer maybe a meta joke would be to revert any changes I make to this post. One interesting way to summarize the problem is wikipedia provides tools designed to make it easier to destroy than to create and then rewards destruction. No great surprise what results.
- mikeash 12y ago
  I'm pretty sure they were just deleted because the poster is terminally embarrassed at discovering that his edits were reverted because he was inadvertently vandalizing them due to a browser plugin, rather than fixing problems like he thought he was.

What article was that? I'd love to go and dig to see what kind of bot would go so hilariously wrong.

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jackcarter 12y ago
Check your browser extensions. You might have one installed that invisibly changes 'disruption' to 'bullshitting.'
- Domenic_S 12y ago
  This is classic if true...
  - Natsu 12y ago
    Classic? I think you mean clbuttic :) (ass -> butt)
- phaemon 12y ago
  Hehe, I think you've nailed it. What was the username of the person? (they've deleted their comments, rather than just admitting they screwed up).
- 6chars 12y ago
  This could be the culprit: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/disrupt-to-bullshit/mahaemfhlcjficbbkbpmkbhhenfnikcf?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/disrupt-to-bullshi...
Domenic_S 12y ago
I'm not seeing it. I see you change "disruption" to "shifting" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623181742&oldid=623041975 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... and then Monkbot changed it back to "disruption", not ClueBotNG. Cluebot actually reverted someone else's vandalism and restored your version (your spellcheck'd version) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=625593375&oldid=625593366 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... Maybe the problem is that the changelog is too hard for casuals to parse?
deathanatos 12y ago
Are you (or am I?) reading the changelog right? Your edits (while harmless, in my opinion) don't match up with your edit messages. The bot you name isn't the one that reverted you (but Cluebot does get involved later). The bot reverted two anonymous edits, so I can't truly tell if they're yours, but you yell at the bot, so I presume so. Edit 1: anonymous IPv6 addr removes the word "also"; article makes sense with and without it. No edit message. Edit 2: anonymous IPv4 addr changes the word "disruption" to "shifting"; article makes grammatical sense either way, unclear to me which is better. Message is "Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been." This is the change that the message doesn't seem to match up with the content, specifically, this diff[2]. Edit 3: "Monkbot" reverts the previous two edits. Perhaps a tad strange, but the edits were strange and from IP addrs. Edit 4: You log in, and yell at the bot[3], "Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been. Thank you for undoing my last edit you stupid bot, I'm trying to removed page defacements NOT ADD THEM." However, this edit again doesn't match the message, and (again) changes the word "disruption" to (this time) "shiftingting" (an honest typo which you correct immediately), and also changes the minus sign on a temperature to a hypen. Edit 5: Your spell correction. Edit 6: Someone experimenting (anon IPv4) adds "hello". Edit 7: Same IP changes "hello" to "booooooooty" Edit 8: Clue Bot NG reverts _to_ your edit, undoing the previous two edits (but leaves your changes) — definitely the correct action. [1]: I'm starting from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=prev&oldid=623041975 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=prev&oldid=623181742 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=next&oldid=623197577 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ...
Zikes 12y ago
I have a hard time parsing those logs, but from what I can tell you kept trying to change "disruption" to "shifting". I even went to a year-old version of the article (you said the typo had been there since 2009) and did a search on the page for "shi" and couldn't find it, but "disruption" was still there. I suspect you had some sort of toy browser extension that swapped words, a la Cloud to Butt [1]. [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus...
xxxyy 12y ago
Can you point to the specific edit you made that has been reverted by the bot? I can see [1] that your first edit to the article "Thermohaline circulation" was a one-word edit and was introducing a non-existent word 'shiftingting', thus being incorrect. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Valarauca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Valarauc...
Animats 12y ago
Ah. Part of the problem is that you haven't registered for a Wikipedia account. ClueBot NG, which is a machine learning system, uses information from your track record as an editor as one of its inputs. Editing anonymously, you have no reputation.
- DanBC 12y ago
  The person had registered an account.
  - Animats 12y ago
    Not at first. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... All the actions by ClueBot NG in that article in the last year applied to edits from unregistered users. The edit by [173.14.38.69]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623181742&oldid=623041975 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... (Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been.) changed "disruption" to "shifting", an edit inconsistent with the edit comment. The word "bullshitting" did not appear. That was reverted by human user "Vsmith" (a user with over 100,000 edits), not a 'bot. Then, this edit by user "Valarauca": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623873692&oldid=623197577 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... (Removed the word bullshitting, which was added where shifting obviously should have been. Thank you for undoing my last edit you stupid bot, I'm trying to removed page defacements NOT ADD THEM.) changed an em dash to an en dash, and "disrupting" to "shiftingting". That botch is fixed in the next edit by user "Valarauca": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circulation&diff=623873812&oldid=623873692 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thermohaline_circ... (Spellling correction on previous change.) "Shifting" then stayed in the article. The Wikipedia processes and 'bots handled this just fine. The cause of the problem was a non-useful edit comment on an edit of marginal quality.
    - DanBC 12y ago
      The person who started this thread, posting to HN, was always using a logged in account on Wikipedia.

VLM 12y ago

Are the comments being deleted here on HN a meta joke about deletionist misbehavior on wikipedia? Depending on the answer maybe a meta joke would be to revert any changes I make to this post. One interesting way to summarize the problem is wikipedia provides tools designed to make it easier to destroy than to create and then rewards destruction. No great surprise what results.

mikeash 12y ago
I'm pretty sure they were just deleted because the poster is terminally embarrassed at discovering that his edits were reverted because he was inadvertently vandalizing them due to a browser plugin, rather than fixing problems like he thought he was.