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Well, I would have to disagree with just about everything you wrote... >The easiest scenario to picture is the one in which a sidearm is merely revealed (rathe

Well, I would have to disagree with just about everything you wrote... >The easiest scenario to picture is the one in which a sidearm is merely revealed (rather than brandished or fired) in order to deter an attacker. Huh? Where do you live where this scenario ever happens? I am 45 and lived in a major city half my life and not really in the best part of town. I have never had the need to reveal a weapon to a would be attacker. If someone is going to mug me their weapon will be already pointed at me and revealing any weapon I have is just going to get me shot. I think maybe you watch to much TV... >A sufficient distribution of concealed carry permits creates (or at least can create) a sort of herd immunity against certain types of violent crime. Source? I just looked at murder rates for NY (where I live) with a low concealed carry permits ratio to Texas which has a high concealed carry permits. Gee, Texas has a higher murder rate... >Volunteer open carry provides an example of how protective force might be delegated in a community without the need for a police force. Ok, I am not a huge fan of police forces but I am also not a huge fan of more random people walking around with guns. The majority of people are to violent, mentally unstable, to just plain to dumb to be carrying weapons around. We already try the wild west thing and it didn't work out...

jMyles 12y ago
> I have never had the need to reveal a weapon to a would be attacker. If someone is going to mug me their weapon will be already pointed at me and revealing any weapon I have is just going to get me shot. I don't speak from personal experience; I've never owned a firearm. However, a number of my friends have had this experience. One possibility is that this is more important for women? A women, being threatened by an unarmed man, can change the complexion of the power balance by revealing a weapon. I don't have a good source for this; it's very possible that I'm wrong. Even if it rarely happens, it's still an easy way to picture the 'purely' defensive capacity of a sidearm.
- 01Michael10 12y ago
  I have no idea what you are talking about "revealing" a weapon or why you would do that... If someone was flashing a gun in a public setting I would be calling the police. Oh wait, let me guess your friends get nervous when a "black" person walks near them so they have to "reveal" they are armed. Funny, this was just in the news the other day... A man purchased a new gun and was flashing it. You guessed it, he was mugged at gun point by someone who wanted to upgrade his piece.
  - jMyles 12y ago
    > Oh wait, let me guess your friends get nervous when a "black" person walks near them so they have to "reveal" they are armed. What the hell is wrong with you? This is shockingly presumptuous and divisive.
    - 01Michael10 12y ago
      What the hell is wrong with me? You are the one who thinks one would have the need to "reveal" they have gun in everyday life.

jMyles 12y ago

> I have never had the need to reveal a weapon to a would be attacker. If someone is going to mug me their weapon will be already pointed at me and revealing any weapon I have is just going to get me shot. I don't speak from personal experience; I've never owned a firearm. However, a number of my friends have had this experience. One possibility is that this is more important for women? A women, being threatened by an unarmed man, can change the complexion of the power balance by revealing a weapon. I don't have a good source for this; it's very possible that I'm wrong. Even if it rarely happens, it's still an easy way to picture the 'purely' defensive capacity of a sidearm.

01Michael10 12y ago
I have no idea what you are talking about "revealing" a weapon or why you would do that... If someone was flashing a gun in a public setting I would be calling the police. Oh wait, let me guess your friends get nervous when a "black" person walks near them so they have to "reveal" they are armed. Funny, this was just in the news the other day... A man purchased a new gun and was flashing it. You guessed it, he was mugged at gun point by someone who wanted to upgrade his piece.
- jMyles 12y ago
  > Oh wait, let me guess your friends get nervous when a "black" person walks near them so they have to "reveal" they are armed. What the hell is wrong with you? This is shockingly presumptuous and divisive.
  - 01Michael10 12y ago
    What the hell is wrong with me? You are the one who thinks one would have the need to "reveal" they have gun in everyday life.