>ISPs are likely "MitM"-ing their own traffic (which by definition isn't a MitM) What's the definition of a MitM? If you're trying to talk to Google, and your

>ISPs are likely "MitM"-ing their own traffic (which by definition isn't a MitM) What's the definition of a MitM? If you're trying to talk to Google, and your ISP is modifying what you say, I would consider that a MitM. Wikipedia mentions a router MitMing its users. I don't see how that can be considered a MitM but not this.