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Well done! I love FastMail, and am very glad that I switch from GMail. However, one of the best parts of FastMail is that it's just proper IMAP at the end of th

by girvo 12y ago

Well done! I love FastMail, and am very glad that I switch from GMail. However, one of the best parts of FastMail is that it's just proper IMAP at the end of the day, so while I'm sure some people are going to love this app, I personally don't have much of a use for it.

robn_fastmail 12y ago
Fair enough, we love IMAP too, and there's no way its going anywhere. We've always cared about standards compliance and client choice, so use what you like and be happy! :)
- coned88 12y ago
  How does that new Australian law allowing manipulation of data effect fastmail?
  - robn_fastmail 12y ago
    There are no new laws (yet). But lets not get into this discussion here. Contact privacy@fastmail.com with your questions and we'll be happy to respond to them.
    - lancewiggs 12y ago
      Actually - I'd really like an answer to that as well. A public answer.
      - rufugee 12y ago
        Totally agree. Things like that should be discussed in public, not buried in individual emails.
        robn_fastmail 12y ago
        My point was more that this is a thread about the new apps, not about our privacy policies. If you want to start a new thread somewhere I'd be happy to comment on it.
        latch 12y ago
        Fastmail customer here. This is a perfect place to answer the question: it's visible, it's the right audience, and it's relevant. Talking about whether we should be using Fastmail at all is, to me at least, related to the question of whether I should install the app. Besides, this is an internet forum. It has threads. This is how these things work. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096768/Woody-Harrelson-falls-victim-Reddit-disastrous-Ask-interview.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096768/Woody-Harrel...
        robn_fastmail 12y ago
        At this point, there are no new laws. Its still being debated in Parliament and submissions are still being reviewed, so its not clear what the final act is going to look like, assuming it passes. So we can't really comment on its impact until we know what's actually in it. We just don't know yet how this is going to play out.
        latch 12y ago
        Thank you. By the way, I like the app. First load must be hitting the network, seems like that could come from a stored cached and refreshed asap. Also, it would be really nice if you could archive or delete a message from the reading view. (a) there's plenty of room for 2 more icons and (b) I have to believe people are way more likely to archive a message than forward it, yet somehow forward gets the spot.
        robn_fastmail 12y ago
        The application gets cached but the data does not. We're looking at ways to improve the initial load time. If you tap the message area when reading, a row of action buttons will appear. You can archive, delete, report spam, move to folder and mark from here.
    - girvo 12y ago
      I'd love to a response on Fastmail's blog or something similar regarding this. Gosh our government frustrates me :(
      - brongondwana 12y ago
        Us too. We don't want to blog every time our government postures about something, but we agree that there are problems with the way policy and laws are being made in Australia. So far there haven't been any new laws actually passed which change our operating environment. When/if there are, then we'll have to respond to them. If the laws change such that we need to say anything different in our privacy policy, then we will definitely make a public statement about those changes. For now, our privacy policy still accurately reflects our understanding of the legal framework we operate within.
    - veidr 12y ago
      Sorry, but this is pretty much the best place on the Internet for that particular kind of discussion.
  - moretrees 12y ago
    Check this thread http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=69561 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=69561 at emaildiscussions.com. There's an answer given by Fastmail's support. Sadly, I agree with an user there when he/she says that the folks there don't seem to be much interested in that kind of discussion..
- Nyr 12y ago
  > We've always cared about standards compliance and client choice Then it would be nice to have contact synchronization available via CardDAV.
  - robn_fastmail 12y ago
    Its being developed.
- tracker1 12y ago
  Interesting enough, there's no actual generic mail client (for imap/pop3/smtp) for chrome/chromeos ... would be nice to have an option for mail in chromebooks outside of several webmail clients open at once.

by girvo 12y ago

robn_fastmail 12y ago

Fair enough, we love IMAP too, and there's no way its going anywhere. We've always cared about standards compliance and client choice, so use what you like and be happy! :)

coned88 12y ago
How does that new Australian law allowing manipulation of data effect fastmail?
- robn_fastmail 12y ago
  There are no new laws (yet). But lets not get into this discussion here. Contact privacy@fastmail.com with your questions and we'll be happy to respond to them.
  - lancewiggs 12y ago
    Actually - I'd really like an answer to that as well. A public answer.
    - rufugee 12y ago
      Totally agree. Things like that should be discussed in public, not buried in individual emails.
      - robn_fastmail 12y ago
        My point was more that this is a thread about the new apps, not about our privacy policies. If you want to start a new thread somewhere I'd be happy to comment on it.
        latch 12y ago
        Fastmail customer here. This is a perfect place to answer the question: it's visible, it's the right audience, and it's relevant. Talking about whether we should be using Fastmail at all is, to me at least, related to the question of whether I should install the app. Besides, this is an internet forum. It has threads. This is how these things work. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096768/Woody-Harrelson-falls-victim-Reddit-disastrous-Ask-interview.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096768/Woody-Harrel...
        robn_fastmail 12y ago
        At this point, there are no new laws. Its still being debated in Parliament and submissions are still being reviewed, so its not clear what the final act is going to look like, assuming it passes. So we can't really comment on its impact until we know what's actually in it. We just don't know yet how this is going to play out.
        latch 12y ago
        Thank you. By the way, I like the app. First load must be hitting the network, seems like that could come from a stored cached and refreshed asap. Also, it would be really nice if you could archive or delete a message from the reading view. (a) there's plenty of room for 2 more icons and (b) I have to believe people are way more likely to archive a message than forward it, yet somehow forward gets the spot.
        robn_fastmail 12y ago
        The application gets cached but the data does not. We're looking at ways to improve the initial load time. If you tap the message area when reading, a row of action buttons will appear. You can archive, delete, report spam, move to folder and mark from here.
  - girvo 12y ago
    I'd love to a response on Fastmail's blog or something similar regarding this. Gosh our government frustrates me :(
    - brongondwana 12y ago
      Us too. We don't want to blog every time our government postures about something, but we agree that there are problems with the way policy and laws are being made in Australia. So far there haven't been any new laws actually passed which change our operating environment. When/if there are, then we'll have to respond to them. If the laws change such that we need to say anything different in our privacy policy, then we will definitely make a public statement about those changes. For now, our privacy policy still accurately reflects our understanding of the legal framework we operate within.
  - veidr 12y ago
    Sorry, but this is pretty much the best place on the Internet for that particular kind of discussion.
- moretrees 12y ago
  Check this thread http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=69561 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=69561 at emaildiscussions.com. There's an answer given by Fastmail's support. Sadly, I agree with an user there when he/she says that the folks there don't seem to be much interested in that kind of discussion..
Nyr 12y ago
> We've always cared about standards compliance and client choice Then it would be nice to have contact synchronization available via CardDAV.
- robn_fastmail 12y ago
  Its being developed.
tracker1 12y ago
Interesting enough, there's no actual generic mail client (for imap/pop3/smtp) for chrome/chromeos ... would be nice to have an option for mail in chromebooks outside of several webmail clients open at once.