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You're comment is nonsensical. Women compose 12% of recent CS graduates. Even if all of these women are as good as the top quarter of men, they would still be

You're comment is nonsensical. Women compose 12% of recent CS graduates. Even if all of these women are as good as the top quarter of men, they would still be outnumbered nearly 2 to 1 for a given job. If we wanted to reach equality by your standard, the industry would have to fire men (not fill the slots) while simultaneously hiring every woman in sight.

jolux 12y ago
I'm not suggesting that in the least. Hiring more women is easy. Hiring 50% women is EXTREMELY difficult, if not impossible at this point. But that doesn't mean that the solution is to do nothing. The solution is to higher more women and at the same time taking steps to destroy the gender roles that stop them from going into STEM fields and encouraging them to join STEM fields.
rayiner 12y ago
Measures like this really have to start at the university level. There is no reason for only 12% of recent CS graduates to be women: http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/14/percentage-of-bachelors-degrees-conferred-to-women-by-major-1970-2012 http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/14/percentage-of-bachelor.... Women receive 40-50% of the degrees awarded in the physical sciences, math and statistics, and business, versus less than 20% in computer science and engineering. And the less than 20% in computer science is down from 35% in the 1980's.
- yummyfajitas 12y ago
  Women receive a lot of biology degrees and math-ed degrees, which make up a disproportionate fraction of science degrees. In the math-heavy science degrees women are underrepresented. There is a very good reason for at least part of this (read the tables not the titles): http://www.ams.org/notices/201201/rtx120100010p.pdf http://www.ams.org/notices/201201/rtx120100010p.pdf http://www.sciencemag.org/content/321/5888/494.summary http://www.sciencemag.org/content/321/5888/494.summary http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21038941 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21038941

jolux 12y ago

I'm not suggesting that in the least. Hiring more women is easy. Hiring 50% women is EXTREMELY difficult, if not impossible at this point. But that doesn't mean that the solution is to do nothing. The solution is to higher more women and at the same time taking steps to destroy the gender roles that stop them from going into STEM fields and encouraging them to join STEM fields.

rayiner 12y ago

Measures like this really have to start at the university level. There is no reason for only 12% of recent CS graduates to be women: http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/14/percentage-of-bachelors-degrees-conferred-to-women-by-major-1970-2012 http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/14/percentage-of-bachelor.... Women receive 40-50% of the degrees awarded in the physical sciences, math and statistics, and business, versus less than 20% in computer science and engineering. And the less than 20% in computer science is down from 35% in the 1980's.

yummyfajitas 12y ago
Women receive a lot of biology degrees and math-ed degrees, which make up a disproportionate fraction of science degrees. In the math-heavy science degrees women are underrepresented. There is a very good reason for at least part of this (read the tables not the titles): http://www.ams.org/notices/201201/rtx120100010p.pdf http://www.ams.org/notices/201201/rtx120100010p.pdf http://www.sciencemag.org/content/321/5888/494.summary http://www.sciencemag.org/content/321/5888/494.summary http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21038941 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21038941