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> I find that really sad and can certainly say if there were at least 30% women on those buses nearly everyone would know each other a little. Why?

by Dewie 12y ago

alukima 12y ago
Women are socialized to be more social. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=women%20are%20more%20social https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e...
- Dewie 12y ago
  If you say so. In my experience women aren't any more social than men in a setting full of mutual strangers, which I guess these busses full of strangers are.
  - untog 12y ago
    I mean, the OP isn't saying so, they're point to a ton of evidence (admittedly, a Google link isn't the best, but). Countering with "in my experience" is just an anecdote.
    - Dewie 12y ago
      Bullshit. When I replied to Akumi, there was no google-link; that was edited in later. Not that I would consider a google-link evidence of anything; the only thing that it is evidence of is what is "common wisdom". Secondly, a google search is different for everyone: mine showed a lot of links about how women are bigger users of social media, which hardly helps answer any questions in this context. Thirdly, the question is not whether they are more social in general, but whether they are more social in a context of mostly mutual strangers. Even though women might be more social in general, that doesn't necessarily imply that they are more social with strangers. I don't view the google-link as evidence; more like a way of saying let-me-google-that-for-you-(that wasn't so hard, was it?). You know... kind of like so many other "women are different from men" are "obvious".
marquis 12y ago
I was speaking in regards to the tech buses, where you have the same people on board every day. It's a natural inclination for myself, and many other women I suppose, to build relationships with people I see regularly.
- Dewie 12y ago
  So you would, for example, go up to someone that you see regularly but who you don't know and try to get to know them, either through some generic opener/remark/question or more bluntly ('Hi! I've seen you around here a lot lately and...). That doesn't really happen in my culture. People need an actual "excuse" to engage someone, like being at the same event or working together or practising the same sport. You can't just, you know, talk to someone because you want to be social for the hell of it - there needs to be some context. And happening to be in transit at about the same hours of the day doesn't qualify. This is how people in general are (here); both men and women. I guess you wouldn't like it here.
  - selimthegrim 12y ago
    Where is "here"?
    - Dewie 12y ago
      The land of non-America (Norway to be more specific).
  - greglindahl 12y ago
    Half the people in this sub-thread think it's about public transit, and the other half are talking about the company bus systems that take tech workers from homes in San Francisco to jobs in the Silicon Valley. These company buses generally have a single drop-off point, and if you look at the top of the sub-thread, the bus is dropping "all its people". This is a long-winded way of saying that the excuse is that you work at the same company as the people you frequently see on the particular bus you ride most days.
  - yarou 12y ago

> I find that really sad and can certainly say if there were at least 30% women on those buses nearly everyone would know each other a little. Why?

by Dewie 12y ago

> I find that really sad and can certainly say if there were at least 30% women on those buses nearly everyone would know each other a little. Why?

alukima 12y ago

Women are socialized to be more social. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=women%20are%20more%20social https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e...

Dewie 12y ago
If you say so. In my experience women aren't any more social than men in a setting full of mutual strangers, which I guess these busses full of strangers are.
- untog 12y ago
  I mean, the OP isn't saying so, they're point to a ton of evidence (admittedly, a Google link isn't the best, but). Countering with "in my experience" is just an anecdote.
  - Dewie 12y ago
    Bullshit. When I replied to Akumi, there was no google-link; that was edited in later. Not that I would consider a google-link evidence of anything; the only thing that it is evidence of is what is "common wisdom". Secondly, a google search is different for everyone: mine showed a lot of links about how women are bigger users of social media, which hardly helps answer any questions in this context. Thirdly, the question is not whether they are more social in general, but whether they are more social in a context of mostly mutual strangers. Even though women might be more social in general, that doesn't necessarily imply that they are more social with strangers. I don't view the google-link as evidence; more like a way of saying let-me-google-that-for-you-(that wasn't so hard, was it?). You know... kind of like so many other "women are different from men" are "obvious".

marquis 12y ago

I was speaking in regards to the tech buses, where you have the same people on board every day. It's a natural inclination for myself, and many other women I suppose, to build relationships with people I see regularly.

Dewie 12y ago
So you would, for example, go up to someone that you see regularly but who you don't know and try to get to know them, either through some generic opener/remark/question or more bluntly ('Hi! I've seen you around here a lot lately and...). That doesn't really happen in my culture. People need an actual "excuse" to engage someone, like being at the same event or working together or practising the same sport. You can't just, you know, talk to someone because you want to be social for the hell of it - there needs to be some context. And happening to be in transit at about the same hours of the day doesn't qualify. This is how people in general are (here); both men and women. I guess you wouldn't like it here.
- selimthegrim 12y ago
  Where is "here"?
  - Dewie 12y ago
    The land of non-America (Norway to be more specific).
- greglindahl 12y ago
  Half the people in this sub-thread think it's about public transit, and the other half are talking about the company bus systems that take tech workers from homes in San Francisco to jobs in the Silicon Valley. These company buses generally have a single drop-off point, and if you look at the top of the sub-thread, the bus is dropping "all its people". This is a long-winded way of saying that the excuse is that you work at the same company as the people you frequently see on the particular bus you ride most days.
- yarou 12y ago