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Show HN: Meet me, I'll buy you coffee
- milesokeefe 12y agoI stole the concept from tg3 who made this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6674987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6674987 Don't worry though, I got his blessing before making this site.
- bshimmin 12y agoDid you two meet for coffee (perhaps twice, once for each of your sites)?
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- milesokeefe 12y agoWe haven't yet, I got in touch with him and made the site before I moved to the bay area so it wasn't possible at the time. But that would be appropriate! I'll try to make it happen.
- cpayne 12y agoNever, ever say you stole the concept. Inspired, motivated, encouraged - perhaps? Especially since you got his blessing!!
- brd 12y agoI don't know who down-voted you but I'd say the word:impact ratio on this comment is particularly high. Gems like this can have a big impact on a young person's career.
- cpayne 12y agoNot sure if I've done something wrong here. I've feel like I've been downvoted a few times for innocent remarks. (I think we are agreeing!) What should I have said / done?
- shawn-furyan 12y agoNothing. It's a good comment. Sometimes good comments get downvoted initially. It looks like yours recovered into the positive range at least. Try not to take downvotes (especially early ones) personally. It's impossible to induce everyone to take pithy comments in particular exactly the way you intend.
- scribu 12y agoI didn't downvote, but one possible reason: you didn't explain why using the verb "steal" is such a big no-no.
- cpayne 12y agoFair point. - (I think!!) you didn't steal it! My gut says to me you were inspired or motivated or something else. But didn't stolen - You said you got permission. To me, you don't steal & ask permission - But the biggest one for me is that you downplay / sell yourself short! Its deprecating and doesn't serve you. In my experience in software, there are plenty of jealous / insecure / destructive people willing to put you down. Don't play into that game! What you've done is very clever. The concept, + website + the TLD (*.coffee - didn't know that existed) It's well done!
- billmalarky 12y agoThanks for making this comment. The cynic in my was like "I've seen this on hackernews before" but this comment shut up that jerk inside my head. It's a good idea!
- pnathan 12y agoI thought this was like a match-making service which would pair up people quasi-randomly who lived in the same city.
- eudox 12y agoSame, I also thought it randomly picked a user when you opened the page.
- mathattack 12y agoThis sounds like YC-worthy idea. Somebody run with it!
- eudox 12y agoHackerCupid when.
- TimJRobinson 12y agoIs there anything like this? Sets up blind meets / dates with people with similar passions?
- pnathan 12y agoI don't know. I'd definitely sign up for a "Meetup with 3-4 random people at coffeehouse in Seattle" thing.
- nickbarnwell 12y agoThen you'll love Tea With Strangers (http://teawithstrangers.com http://teawithstrangers.com) – we're coming to Seattle soon!
- jacalata 12y agorandom note: because of the favicon I think that you mean the Earl Grey kind of tea, but mentioning a two hour commitment makes me not quite sure that you aren't a British guy saying Dinner.
- terramars 12y agoThis is an awesome networking hack! If you're looking to "meet" a bunch of employers, check out Hired - http://join.hired.com/x/WF25Mp http://join.hired.com/x/WF25Mp. We placed someone with a very similar background to you (18 years old, web dev) a while ago. Everyone loved him, they'd be excited to meet you too. Side note, I'd be happy to chat over coffee and discuss the valley, opportunities, and how to not get screwed over, regardless of your interest in Hired.
- philip1209 12y agoI know somebody who did something like this in St. Louis and was quite successful: http://www.freecoffeewithaubrey.com/ http://www.freecoffeewithaubrey.com/ It helped build her network, find a new job, and meet people doing cool things.
- alain94040 12y agoJust launched, similar idea for lunch: http://colunchers.com http://colunchers.com EDIT: whoa, take it easy, don't overload my VPS instance :-) EDIT2: fine, I'll do my own Show HN here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8592812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8592812
- pcthrowaway 12y agoI love that you have overandoverrickandmortyadventures.com! I just binge watched season 1 and checked every domain name; surprisingly there are a few mentioned in the show that are still unclaimed (I think one was mentioned by the fake door salesman in a later episode where they watch interdimensional television)
- milesokeefe 12y agoThanks! I really appreciate the praise, some of my friends didn't get it. It was fun being able to register a domain and have the site for it done before the DNS finished propagating. Plus the whole site, favicon and all, is just one file which is 3kb unzipped: https://github.com/MilesOkeefe/overandoverrickandmortyadventures.com https://github.com/MilesOkeefe/overandoverrickandmortyadvent...
- imaginenore 12y agoYour page is way too tall for the amount of information you put. And the most important stuff is at the bottom.
- milesokeefe 12y agoThanks for the feedback. I was going for the "narrative" style design for this, I intentionally didn't put all the information "above the fold" like the original site did: http://coffee.tgriff3.com http://coffee.tgriff3.com
- aembleton 12y agoI prefer that original website. It makes it much clearer what's going on.
- woven 12y agoI prefer Miles' "narrative" style. :)
- escape_goat 12y agoIn my not-a-good-designer opinion, Trey's page makes a mistake with the high-contrast, heavily shadowed photo and the darkness of the background. UX people should step in to correct me if needed: to me it feels that a human face trumps about everything else on a webpage; the attention shoots to it and our sensibilities adjust to the lighting on the face. That leaves me sitting in a small dark box looking out of a round hole, and the lighting/contrast information from the coffee video gets rejected as incoherent. It was actually quite interesting to have the two of them to compare. I hope you have taken him up on his offer of coffee! It would be the gentlemanly thing to do.
- tomahaug 12y agoHi Miles, I really like the page and the idea behind! Do you know www.startuptravels.com? There's approximately 42 entrepreneurs at the moment of writing in the bay area who'd like to meet other entrepreneurs for a coffee and a chat. Direct link to the SF search: http://www.startuptravels.com/search?location=San%20Francisco,%20CA,%20USA http://www.startuptravels.com/search?location=San%20Francisc... Edit: If anyone wants to show a little support. Show HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8592850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8592850
- rickduggan 12y agoVery cool. I've been doing this for about 3 years in Las Vegas for the VegasTech community. It is definitely a great way to meet other people and it keeps you from getting too focused on your own thing and not getting other perspectives. I've also signed up for startuptravels as it looks to be a great way to create conversations.
- Multiplayer 12y agoHow are you marketing this page?
- milesokeefe 12y agoI posted it here, then tweeted this HN post to my measly 134 followers. I also have this site linked to on my personal site, http://miles.codes http://miles.codes. But my personal site doesn't get much traffic so I don't think that had any effect. I've really done no marketing besides posting here and on Twitter. It's just luck and how you phrase the title I think. For example, I posted this link for the first time a few days ago with the the title "I'll buy you coffee" and it only got 2 upvotes.
- brimtown 12y agoGreat idea. Just a heads up, the email validation in your index.js isn't functioning; it accepts any arbitrary string (or none at all).
- frandroid 12y agoIt's not broken; it's an intentional form of user validation.
- brimtown 12y agoIt's marked as an email field, and if you enter a random string, it replies "Message sent!". Not trying to be pedantic or critical, I just figured he'd want to know if his goal was actually to gather emails.
- milesokeefe 12y agoThanks for letting me know, I always appreciate input like this. Although in this case, not validating the emails client-side just means I have to validate emails after I receive them. Which is actually good in a way, I like seeing when people send stuff like "DROPTABLEuser" or "'SHOWPROCESSLIST'1=1", it's kind of a fun curiosity I suppose.
- milesokeefe 12y agoI didn't bother with any validation client-side, I have the email validation happen on the back end only. In retrospect, I should have placed the inputs in an actual <form> element so that Chrome's email validation would take effect.
- brimtown 12y agoNo worries! As someone only a couple years older than you, I have to say, congrats on making the move out there. It seems like you've got a lot of passion and commitment; wish I was in the Berkeley to take you up on the coffee.
- zippergz 12y agoI have to say, as someone twice your age, I'm humbled by how many projects you've put out there. Sure, a lot of them are small and simple, but there's something to be said for just doing stuff. I spend too much time agonizing over whether my ideas are good enough, big enough, will make me money, etc. I'd probably learn more and have more fun if I allowed myself the freedom to do small interesting projects without any expectation of what they'll turn into.....
- jonalmeida 12y agoThis is something that as someone in my early 20s is trying to fix. I know a lot of people who don't like to work on projects or open source them because they're afraid of being judged and a feeling that everyone is watching you (this is an emotion I had tackled for a while). Once you realize that there aren't many people looking at your projects (if any), and that those who are, will actually help you, is when you start doing more. This reminds me of two quotes: - “Fail faster.” - "If you're going to make a mistake, make it LOUD so we can hear it and correct it."
- wjoe 12y agoYeah, I feel the same way. I realised recently that if I'd spent even a couple of days working on every idea I've had and given up on, I'd know a hell of a lot more than I do today.
- eddotman 12y agoPretty cool stuff, dude. I filled out the form (which, I assume, sent you an email). I'll be around Berkeley in January, so if you like chatting about science stuff, then that could be fun. You have really good initiative (especially normalized for age).
- davb 12y agoThis is a great idea. I really wish we had half the community community you guys have, here in Aberdeen, Scotland. You could throw a rock and hit a tech guy in SF. Here, the only groups of any prominence are MS .Net groups. I've been struggling to find or build such a network here. I'm an open source, Linux, Python type of guy and feel I don't fit in the myopic tech culture here. I'd emigrate to SF in a heartbeat. Good luck networking, I reckon you'll do alright. If you ever visit Scotland, hit me up!
- voltagex_ 12y agoHave you tried http://aberlug.org.uk/ http://aberlug.org.uk/ or https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/group/ https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/group/ or http://www.meetup.com/Aberdeen-Python-Meetup http://www.meetup.com/Aberdeen-Python-Meetup? (not having a go, I have the same problem (sometimes) in Australia)
- tomahaug 12y ago(Disclaimer: I'm cofounder) I'd recommend also giving http://www.startuptravels.com/ http://www.startuptravels.com/ a go, we're not a huge crowd yet, but we've got a few entrepreneurs in Australia, and the responsiveness and willingness to meet new people amongst our users has been overwhelmingly positive so far.
- voltagex_ 12y agoNo one near me. Can I register as a non-startup tech? Edit: Ah, I don't use LinkedIn.
- tomahaug 12y ago@voltagex_ Definitely. We believe that entrepreneurial spirit is more a state of mind, than what you might be doing on a daily basis. Edit: Ah, bummer. I believe that's a +1 for native signup! :) Also, which city are you living in?
- voltagex_ 12y agoHave you thought about letting other people put up subdirectories/subdomains on this site? It'd be really useful for a friend of mine (in Australia)
- sillysaurus3 12y agoWhat does clicking "Let's meet" do? I clicked it to find out and it said "Message sent, thanks! I look forward to meeting you." I, too, look forward to meeting you! But that probably won't happen. Good luck with your experiment, though. Also, a few things to remember: You're much more valuable than your first employers would have you believe. Don't let that go to your head. Do go to university. I know how eager you are, having been in that position myself, but it's a mistake to drop out of one of the most effective social networks ever devised by humankind. Go for the social experience and the social doors it opens. If you're still not convinced, take a hard look at the background of all of the YC partners and realize that all of them seem to have attended some good schools. While you can make it without university, and you can lead a happy life and do whatever you want and be in the upper 1% of quality of life across all of humanity without attending university, you only get one chance to choose not to follow "The Path," which is high school -> good university (undergrad) -> better university (graduate student) -> learn how to be around rich people and convince them of your way of thinking. Normal people who don't attend university simply don't get this opportunity. Specifically, the opportunity to test out what works and what doesn't, socially, with wealthy people. Why is this important? Well, if you want to do something big, and you don't have any money, wealthy people are by definition the only ones who can help you. Even at absurdly high salaries, it's very hard to save up money to do something that involves hiring other people. Possible, but difficult. So where do you turn? Investors, of course. Except, crap, they're wealthy, and you have no idea how to be around them as equals. But wait, you attended university, and so maybe they have some shared ground with you... Hm, nope, you didn't. Well, of course, your website demonstrates traction, and traction is what matters to an investor. But what else do investors care about? Your team. Where (or whether) you went to university says a lot about you, fortunately or unfortunately. Really, there's no reason not to go. Make some reasonably intelligent decisions and you'll have a great time while getting the debt paid off in a reasonable timeframe. But if you don't go, you may find you'll want to later but never really get the opportunity. Not in the way you once had. Once you depart from The Path, you'll have to beat your way back onto it, surmounting bills and work and all kinds of annoying stuff that people fresh out of highschool don't really have to worry about just yet. Speaking of bills and debt: whatever you do, don't get into credit card debt. Don't get into credit card debt! I can't emphasize this enough. It's so tempting, but just don't. Do use a credit card though. Just pay it off every month. Otherwise you may not be able to get services (internet, phone, whatever) at a new apartment, or buy a car. Had it happen to me once, and it sucks. No credit history = unknown risk = "I'm sorry but we will never do business with you." Kind of an awkward place to end a ramble, but whatever. Maybe some of the ideas might be useful. Maybe consider leveraging this particular experiment to help you attend one of the local top-tier universities as an undergrad. Ask people if they have any advice on this, and maybe you'll find someone who could help with the admissions process. Who you know matters more than what your highschool history was like, so maybe some strings could be pulled somewhere.
- drawkbox 12y agoYou are gonna go far kid, scratch that adult. Keep those hands firmly gripped on the wheel, noone else driving it but you.
- youaresolam3 12y agovalidate the email address, before accepting them
- martinvol 12y agobeautiful website, by the way!
- lowglow 12y agoI tried this with burritos last year. The results were mixed. I got a lot of great people, but even with screening, I had a ton of very weird characters come through because I got some press on it. I found a lot of people just wanted a free burrito. Not a problem, but not the community I hoped to build out of the experiment. Needless to say I had put on about 20lbs in burritos. [edit] sent you an email! :)
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- jclish 12y agoWelcome to California.
- edw519 12y agoI love it! It's interesting, inviting, and shows great initiative. I don't live in the bay area, but next visit I'll make sure to put this on my schedule. 2 pieces of feedback: "See more about me here." doesn't do you justice. I didn't even notice it, but I found your website from your hn profile. Once I visited your site, you went from "mildly interesting" to "must meet". Is there some way to make the link to your site more prominent, perhaps with a mini-graphic of your front page a little higher up. I know this may sound controversial, but "Here's my offer: I buy you a coffee..." and "Free" actually turn me off a little. I've heard this so many times now, I'm practically immune to it. You obviously have much to offer without buying coffee. Anyone should be happy to spend time with you without that. You may actually want to reconsider that offer to stand out from the crowd of posers (who you are obviously not a part of) and allow yourself to stand on your own merits. Don't sell yourself short. You clearly don't need to pay to meet interesting people in the bay area. Something to think about. Best wishes on this and on your move, Miles. Looking forward to hearing great things about you and hopefully having coffee (dutch treat) soon someday.
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- Pinn2 12y agoNeat! Just remember that it's not just who you know--it's what you know! You'll go far.
- jack-r-abbit 12y agoThe form at the bottom is a little confusing for several reasons. 1) You say things like "Here's my offer: I buy you a coffee" and "Tell me about your..." but then the form is all "I'm ________ and I'll meet you ______". Notice the change in who I and you refer to? 2) Adding to the confusing of #1, you have an email address placeholder that is not very obviously a placeholder. It is your.email@gmail.com but what if that is actually your gmail account. Perhaps using the classic something@example.com would make it a little more obvious that it is placeholder. It kind of looks like you have put your own email address since this I'm is you if they were all consistent in this section... but they aren't. This is a classic conundrum of web design. (ie, should a site use "your cart" or "my cart" in the nav?) Having said that, I work in Berkeley and could probably meet up some day. I don't drink coffee though.
- jack-r-abbit 12y agoI tried to offer a constructive critique for a "Show HN". I sincerely apologize to the offended party. :/
- milesokeefe 12y agoI appreciate the feedback! You can shrug off those downvotes.
- jack-r-abbit 12y agoYou're welcome. Welcome to Berkeley and good luck. And I don't care about the downvote itself. There are plenty of cases where I know what I'm writing is going to be downvoted because that is what people do to other people with opposing opinions on certain topics. But I am baffled by them when I truly have absolutely no clue about why.
- afar 12y agoI like the .coffee domain. Nice get. Although, with 190+ points, "I'll buy you coffee" might get a bit expensive.
- milesokeefe 12y agoI don't doubt it will, but I think it'll fetch a pretty good ROI.
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- mattlogan1 12y agoF the haters, you're clearly doing something right.
- BrandonY 12y agoThis would be cool as a generic tool, like a 1:1 version of Meetup. Which I guess is what dating websites are, but explicitly focused on just talking one time with an interesting person about stuff they are really excited about over coffee instead of dating. I would like to have coffee with interesting people from time to time.
- rglover 12y agoMight be too late, but would be cool to show off your dev schools by adding some sort of slot/budget feature that shows how many cups (or money left) you have open for people to "book."
- agentultra 12y agoI've went more or less a similar route as you. I've met people who swear by going to university. Many who went and dropped out. Others like myself who didn't go. We're all in roughly the same spots not far from some imaginary standard deviation. Best of luck with this interesting idea. How do you vet the people you intend to meet? Do you get any spam or trolls?
- too_many_miles 12y agohttp://imgur.com/DtAqDBU http://imgur.com/DtAqDBU
- milesokeefe 12y agoThis got a laugh out of me :) Pretty impressed you make an account just for this.
- partisan 12y agoThis guy is silicon valley's dream. Self re-locating, driven and talented, and young enough to pay peanuts in salary. You late twenty-somethings have an expiration date now.
- whatmeworry 12y agoyou forgot to add: "and from a wealthy enough background to never have to worry about taking risks"
- partisan 12y agoI didn't want to bring that up on HN for fear of facing some backlash, but my wife and I were having that very same discussion just now. I won't dismiss whatever risks he took to get to where he is. That said, I am guessing he can still get that free education through his parents employment if he ever needed to and it must make things a lot less stressful knowing that the risk is not quite so great. I always reflect back on my interviews. Whenever I went for an interview, but had a decent job that I could stay at, I KILLED. Then, those few times when I was dying to get out of my situation, I lost some of my confidence and charm and bravado and those were the times I didn't get the job. It honestly helps (me) to take risks when there is a cushy landing if you fail.
- zaporozhets 12y agoI'd like to think i'm a relatively successful 20 year old. I left high-school and jump straight into a front-end dev role at a branding agency. Two years on I'm not building a creative agency, hireable anywhere and I have a business network that most people would kill for. I think that what you're doing is great but you'll do better by getting some business cards made, going to events and networking with every single person you can. That relaxed environment usually yields for more exciting and organic business relationships. Simultaneously, work hard in places that are versatile in their offering. You'll get broader and ultimately more valuable experience rather than taking a higher paying job somewhere where you're not growing properly. Also I recommend you jump into some fast-paced, crazy work at an agency before you move into a product focused team.
- issa 12y agoHow people feel about the "going to college" question is usually just a reflection of their own experiences and nothing more. You can't live life twice. IF you want to be a doctor/lawyer/etc where a degree is required, then by all means you must go to school. For anything where only results matter (for example, the open source software world) no one will care one way or the other what you do. A lot of things will fall in between. Some doors will open, some will close. It's impossible for anyone to say which is a better choice. Certainly, no matter what, there is no pressing need to go to school NOW. School will still be there in a year. Or two. Or even 20 if you find a reason to go later in your life. The only thing you should avoid at all costs is wasting time. If you're skipping school to get high and play video games (doesn't sound like you!) then you are going to pay a heavy price as the years slip by. Be sure to make use of the time you "save"! Good luck!
- smegel 12y agoI suspect this is just a ploy to get to the top post on HN which is surely of more value than this webpage in and of itself...so congrats I guess.
- yurylifshits 12y agoHey Miles, we have Mission Hackers meetup this Wednesday. Come join us tomorrow: https://www.facebook.com/events/1549813885231948/ https://www.facebook.com/events/1549813885231948/ Everyone else is welcome too! We are a group of hackers and entrepreneurs who get together in Mission District, work on our own projects and have fun.
- gniquil 12y agoYour Meet me at "noon" placeholder got cut off (reads "no" right now). Had to pull up the trusty inspector to resize the input element to see the full word... Otherwise awesome!
- chrismorgan 12y agohttp://miles.codes/ http://miles.codes/ doesn’t work well in Firefox, by the way.
- milesokeefe 12y agoMy bad, I need to get better at testing on environments that I don't use personally. I take chrome for granted and know that that's a very bad thing (re: the IE6 era v2.0).
- choicenotchance 12y agoWhatever floats your boat. The only thing about college that seems good to me now (2 years since I passed out), was that it gave me tonnes of opportunities to meet girls, decent smart girls. And now, nada. One can't just expect a random girl at the mall to be like that, and the context makes it more difficult to approach. Back in college though, the stuff from college environment being the mutual thing to talk about made it easier.
- michaelq 12y agoThe college experience for most Millenials can fit into 14 lines of JavaScript: https://twitter.com/freecodecamp/status/531824655573602304 https://twitter.com/freecodecamp/status/531824655573602304
- ninjaplease 12y ago"Hurr durr, college is useless, everyone just needs to become web developers." Laughable.
- trekky1700 12y agoI'd love to take you up on this, but I'm afraid I'm thousands of "Miles" away. Sorry I had to. Nice Rick and Morty site on your portfolio!
- cblock811 12y agoGood for you! I'm from the South and moved out here without knowing anyone before. I would love to meet you and hear how things are going. I would be happy to introduce you to people too. Included my email when I responded to your web app but my personal email is listed in my profile. Coffee is on me though ;P
- peteforde 12y agoThere's a lot of folks in this thread that are posting "go to school" comments without knowing a whole lot about you. I'm sure that from their perspective it's the obvious best advice. I am commenting to say that people who have invested the most valuable years of their life in school tend to spend the rest of their lives hunting for evidence that they made a great decision. The simple fact is that their answers are more about their own confirmation bias than giving actionable advice. While it's true that lots of successful people went to college, the simple fact that you taught yourself to code and you're hanging out on Hacker News puts you into a completely different category than 99.9% of people that don't go to college. I've seen people talk here about ROI on degrees and "the path" and what makes a good student. I've seen far less about how people are highly unlikely to know what they should be doing with the rest of their lives right out of high school. That there's so much focus on 18 year olds paying crazy tuition to get a piece of paper that proves they attended some generic lectures on a generic subject is criminal. Anyhow, I'm ranting. I'm projecting. I didn't go to college and I have been very successful. It's because I decided early on to feed my intellectual curiosity and give myself permission to fall in love with things that themselves lead to other things. It's way more important that you learn about music and travel and optimize for interesting than push your square peg through a round hole. That's not to say that you won't ever go. But if you don't think this is the right time, then you are the best person to know that. Just don't be idle; try to imagine that your life will be a series of well executed five year plans. Don't let yourself get burnt out along the way, it sucks. What I recommend is that you join a startup and work there for about a year. Then get the hell out of California for a year; I recommend that you go work at a startup in Berlin or Amsterdam for a year. Get a global perspective. Hacker News is an incredible resource, but it's also really full of people that buy into a California tech ideology that can be self-limiting. It's just one of many lenses through which you can see the world. Good luck; I'm really excited for you. Just remember: no person has ever been on their deathbed and thought, "man... I wish I'd made fewer interesting decisions".
- ashah 12y agogo to college, dont miss your chance to have sex with human women
- Blahah 12y agoYou can basically ignore any life advice you're being given on this thread - you've got your head screwed on better than anyone here. Keep doing what you're doing; you're doing it all right. I'm not in SF, but if you're ever in the UK (London/Cambridge) feel free to look me up.
- V-2 12y agoWhile the main website is very aesthetic... http://miles.codes/ http://miles.codes/ - this is not a particularly good design. Project descriptions are hardly readable and it looks plain ugly, to be frank
- tempodox 12y agoIf you're one of those strange people who do social networking, this approach is really cool. I like it :) I'll let you know when I'm in the vicinity.
- tuxguy 12y agoVery impressive Miles ! You should speak to Sahil http://sahillavingia.com/ http://sahillavingia.com/ Wish you all the very best !
- yawz 12y agoMany commented about the merits of college already. I'm just going to say college life was great. There's more to life than money and professional success. If you have the opportunity, go through college and experience the social benefits.
- stockkid 12y agoSeeing this website reminds me of myself. I too have been building computer stuff since I was a 5th grader. I was going to study CS in college. After I was rejected by my dream school, I went on to study economics and mathematics instead, because it was the one of the best program that my school offered. I've seen your projects and they speak for your passion. I think it's amazing that you are doing what you are doing. I'm not going to lecture you about whether to go to college or not. College has its merits and demerits. All I can say is keep up the good work!