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If places sold an empty bottle for 5c or whatever that you had to fill up by yourself at a tap, then that's what I would buy. Sometimes you're out and you want

If places sold an empty bottle for 5c or whatever that you had to fill up by yourself at a tap, then that's what I would buy. Sometimes you're out and you want something to drink but you don't have a container, bottled water is kind of an obvious choice. All the purity shit is just capitalist competition in action. And I still don't understand what is worse about it than bottled Coke or whatever.

therealdrag0 12y ago
That seems like a pretty good business idea. Even for 25c I'd buy it. Especially at like airports.
- dbtc 12y ago
  If they were flexible enough to be collapsed then shipping and storage would be significantly cheaper than bottled water too.
  - Bill_Dimm 12y ago
    It's been done (not $0.25, though): http://grrrltraveler.com/top-packing-tips/vapur-water-bottle-review/ http://grrrltraveler.com/top-packing-tips/vapur-water-bottle...
    - therealdrag0 12y ago
      Good point. I've had a couple Platepuses for a while, but I hate to clean them. Would be nice to have a cheap recyclable solution for on the go when you forget your normal bottle.
smacktoward 12y ago
But who would buy it? Contra the article, I would argue that there's three reasons bottled water became popular: 1) Convenience: no need to tote an empty container around with you, or find one when you're thirsty 2) Status signaling: a.k.a. "tap water is what the proles drink" 3) Collapse of faith in the efficacy of collective action: the rise of Perrier was driven by sales in the US & UK, and occurred during the late '70s and early '80s, the same time as the rise of Reagan and Thatcher and the beginning of the era we live in now. Guarantees of the purity of tap water rested on the authority of government, which people had stopped believing in. The purity of bottled water rested on the authority of the Free Market™, which was more in fashion. Empty bottle plus tap would be much better for the environment, and probably cost people less over time than bottled water does, but it fails in comparison on all three of those points. And since history shows these are the points people care about, the prospects of the concept don't seem bright; at least not without another major shift in society.
- maxerickson 12y ago
  Point 3 is confusing to me. In the U.S., government regulation of water quality got a lot stronger in the 1970s: http://www2.epa.gov/laws-regulations/history-clean-water-act http://www2.epa.gov/laws-regulations/history-clean-water-act http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/index.cfm http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/index.cfm Between that, advances in technology and the wider deployment of municipal water supplies, U.S. tap water is probably as clean and safe as it has ever been, at least since the beginning of the industrial era.
  - smacktoward 12y ago
    I'm referring to public perception, not facts. The environmental wave that was symbolized by the first Earth Day resulted in lots of environmental policy improvements in the US by the end of the '70s. But by the time those policy improvements happened, public sentiment had turned away from collective action towards private, market-based action. Remember, laws lag public opinion, they don't lead it. So the laws that pass today are responses to public opinion as it stood at some point in the past.

therealdrag0 12y ago

That seems like a pretty good business idea. Even for 25c I'd buy it. Especially at like airports.

dbtc 12y ago
If they were flexible enough to be collapsed then shipping and storage would be significantly cheaper than bottled water too.
- Bill_Dimm 12y ago
  It's been done (not $0.25, though): http://grrrltraveler.com/top-packing-tips/vapur-water-bottle-review/ http://grrrltraveler.com/top-packing-tips/vapur-water-bottle...
  - therealdrag0 12y ago
    Good point. I've had a couple Platepuses for a while, but I hate to clean them. Would be nice to have a cheap recyclable solution for on the go when you forget your normal bottle.

smacktoward 12y ago

But who would buy it? Contra the article, I would argue that there's three reasons bottled water became popular: 1) Convenience: no need to tote an empty container around with you, or find one when you're thirsty 2) Status signaling: a.k.a. "tap water is what the proles drink" 3) Collapse of faith in the efficacy of collective action: the rise of Perrier was driven by sales in the US & UK, and occurred during the late '70s and early '80s, the same time as the rise of Reagan and Thatcher and the beginning of the era we live in now. Guarantees of the purity of tap water rested on the authority of government, which people had stopped believing in. The purity of bottled water rested on the authority of the Free Market™, which was more in fashion. Empty bottle plus tap would be much better for the environment, and probably cost people less over time than bottled water does, but it fails in comparison on all three of those points. And since history shows these are the points people care about, the prospects of the concept don't seem bright; at least not without another major shift in society.

maxerickson 12y ago
Point 3 is confusing to me. In the U.S., government regulation of water quality got a lot stronger in the 1970s: http://www2.epa.gov/laws-regulations/history-clean-water-act http://www2.epa.gov/laws-regulations/history-clean-water-act http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/index.cfm http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/index.cfm Between that, advances in technology and the wider deployment of municipal water supplies, U.S. tap water is probably as clean and safe as it has ever been, at least since the beginning of the industrial era.
- smacktoward 12y ago
  I'm referring to public perception, not facts. The environmental wave that was symbolized by the first Earth Day resulted in lots of environmental policy improvements in the US by the end of the '70s. But by the time those policy improvements happened, public sentiment had turned away from collective action towards private, market-based action. Remember, laws lag public opinion, they don't lead it. So the laws that pass today are responses to public opinion as it stood at some point in the past.