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Arrington referencing Glenn Beck is definitely cause for concern.

deciplex 12y ago
Yeah, came here to post basically this :-) I mean, I think he's probably discussing a real thing, and is mostly on-target regarding the cause. But, he could have picked a better example - how was Beck processing a lot of information, unless we're just talking about batshit-insane conspiracy theories and what gibberish to scribble on the blackboard that night? And comparing himself to Churchill is just more of the self-aggrandizement Beck is famous for (or self-deprecation, I guess, depending on your opinion of Churchill - but Beck certainly intends it as aggrandizement).
- thaumaturgy 12y ago
  Pause for a moment, replace "Beck" in your comment with the name of any famous person you have even a little respect for, and then reread what you wrote as though it was written by someone that dislikes that person. All the same thoughts occurred to me too. Then I realized I was being dumb, and fortunately one of the few graces of getting older is that I don't say what I'm thinking as often as I used to.
  - teach 12y ago
    Hear, hear. I can't tell you the number of times I've drafted a comment on HN, revised it a couple of times, and think cancelled before posting. That wouldn't have happened in my twenties.
    - ilyanep 12y ago
      I'm in my twenties and I do that all the time, though perhaps that's just anxiety more than wisdom.
  - deciplex 12y ago
    So, should we not discuss the merits of a person who has a public life? Glenn Beck is a public and controversial figure, and controversial for good reason - in fact I don't think he would object to the supposition that he goes out of his way to be controversial. So, if someone brings him up in conversation or in a blog post, I shouldn't respond in kind because I might offend someone? I mean, keep in mind, I didn't bring up Glenn Beck. He's a central part of the article, for crying out loud, and Arrington references his book multiple times, compares himself to him (and Churchill by proxy), and on and on. It is not unreasonable that discussion of this article would include Glenn Beck, since he's such an integral part of it, and it is not reasonable to ask that people keep their personal opinions of Beck out of that discussion. Your comment is seemingly pretty benign, but I will tell you that I take a great deal of offense to it. You are thought-policing - simple as that. I don't know where you think you derive the authority to tell me what topics are and are not off limits - especially when those topics are referenced directly in the article at hand. And, for the record, I often do start to write a comment and then think better of it. This time I didn't. Perhaps you should have.
onewaystreet 12y ago
When discussing health issues the character of a person matters none.
- msbarnett 12y ago
  PT Barnum would love to give you some health advice, I'm sure. (The "miracle health centre" Beck is pumping in the linked piece reeks of scam. The phrase "Chiropractic Neurology" ought to send you running for the hills.)
aaron695 12y ago
Correct. A big, scary part of HN is just pain crazy/not high in IQ. Really not sure how to block that out. They are now taking medical advice from a quote of a quote from Glenn Beck from his doctor. WTF (What the Fuck) does “TIME COLLAPSE” in science (AKA not magic) even mean? [Edit] But this line at least was very funny > Beck said doctors told him it was normal for someone processing as much information as he was, and the phenomenon has been discussed by figures like Winston Churchill. Doctors are also historians!
- ryanthejuggler 12y ago
  Doctors do have to be historians; any diagnosis they make (unless it's a disease that's never been seen before) will be in terms of other diseases. I was diagnosed with a fairly rare disease, and my specialist knew a bit about the history of the disease. Knowing the history of a set of symptoms is exactly what helps doctors figure things out. If it so happens that a famous person once had the disease, well, that's an interesting fact and I'd probably tend to remember that/bring it up too.

Yeah, came here to post basically this :-) I mean, I think he's probably discussing a real thing, and is mostly on-target regarding the cause. But, he could have picked a better example - how was Beck processing a lot of information, unless we're just talking about batshit-insane conspiracy theories and what gibberish to scribble on the blackboard that night? And comparing himself to Churchill is just more of the self-aggrandizement Beck is famous for (or self-deprecation, I guess, depending on your opinion of Churchill - but Beck certainly intends it as aggrandizement).

thaumaturgy 12y ago
Pause for a moment, replace "Beck" in your comment with the name of any famous person you have even a little respect for, and then reread what you wrote as though it was written by someone that dislikes that person. All the same thoughts occurred to me too. Then I realized I was being dumb, and fortunately one of the few graces of getting older is that I don't say what I'm thinking as often as I used to.
- teach 12y ago
  Hear, hear. I can't tell you the number of times I've drafted a comment on HN, revised it a couple of times, and think cancelled before posting. That wouldn't have happened in my twenties.
  - ilyanep 12y ago
    I'm in my twenties and I do that all the time, though perhaps that's just anxiety more than wisdom.
- deciplex 12y ago
  So, should we not discuss the merits of a person who has a public life? Glenn Beck is a public and controversial figure, and controversial for good reason - in fact I don't think he would object to the supposition that he goes out of his way to be controversial. So, if someone brings him up in conversation or in a blog post, I shouldn't respond in kind because I might offend someone? I mean, keep in mind, I didn't bring up Glenn Beck. He's a central part of the article, for crying out loud, and Arrington references his book multiple times, compares himself to him (and Churchill by proxy), and on and on. It is not unreasonable that discussion of this article would include Glenn Beck, since he's such an integral part of it, and it is not reasonable to ask that people keep their personal opinions of Beck out of that discussion. Your comment is seemingly pretty benign, but I will tell you that I take a great deal of offense to it. You are thought-policing - simple as that. I don't know where you think you derive the authority to tell me what topics are and are not off limits - especially when those topics are referenced directly in the article at hand. And, for the record, I often do start to write a comment and then think better of it. This time I didn't. Perhaps you should have.

onewaystreet 12y ago

When discussing health issues the character of a person matters none.

msbarnett 12y ago
PT Barnum would love to give you some health advice, I'm sure. (The "miracle health centre" Beck is pumping in the linked piece reeks of scam. The phrase "Chiropractic Neurology" ought to send you running for the hills.)

aaron695 12y ago

Correct. A big, scary part of HN is just pain crazy/not high in IQ. Really not sure how to block that out. They are now taking medical advice from a quote of a quote from Glenn Beck from his doctor. WTF (What the Fuck) does “TIME COLLAPSE” in science (AKA not magic) even mean? [Edit] But this line at least was very funny > Beck said doctors told him it was normal for someone processing as much information as he was, and the phenomenon has been discussed by figures like Winston Churchill. Doctors are also historians!

ryanthejuggler 12y ago
Doctors do have to be historians; any diagnosis they make (unless it's a disease that's never been seen before) will be in terms of other diseases. I was diagnosed with a fairly rare disease, and my specialist knew a bit about the history of the disease. Knowing the history of a set of symptoms is exactly what helps doctors figure things out. If it so happens that a famous person once had the disease, well, that's an interesting fact and I'd probably tend to remember that/bring it up too.