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So whole societies should sacrifice their privacy so someone can have a hypothetical chance at recovering a stolen car more quickly?
by jeangenie 12y ago
So whole societies should sacrifice their privacy so someone can have a hypothetical chance at recovering a stolen car more quickly?
- res0nat0r 12y agoYou don't have a right to privacy in a public space.
- silentOpen 12y agoYou do have a right not to be followed everywhere you go. Ubiquitous ANPR is essentially a police officer/power broker tailing every car without suspicion. This is more than a violation of visible privacy.
- res0nat0r 12y agoWhy is tracking if done by the police in a "slow" way (ie: cops sitting at major intersections or keeping an eye out for a flagged vehicle) OK, but if it is done automatically somehow bad? Should all of your server logs be manually reviewed by hand for intrusion detection vs. allowing software to do it? You are both trying to track down and also stop criminals...
- silentOpen 12y agoIt isn't tracking that is bad but suspicionless, ubiquitous tracking. Your server analogy is badly flawed because it is analogous to your cop/intersection example. A more appropriate analogy would be universal connection/request logging at the ISP level. It's not OK to have all of your society's unencrypted Web requests recorded and correlated by your government. Do you think it's OK? Why? What benefit does it confer to the people?
- res0nat0r 12y agoSo is universal tracking of everyone who walks in/out of a gas station / store also bad? No one cares or looks at the tape of you walking around the store unless there is a reason to do so. Should all passive recording cams also be stopped?
- silentOpen 12y agoYou're still not paying attention to the words I have written. The word you are missing is ubiquitous. It's not about a single location -- it's about all locations.
- vidarh 12y agoThe law disagrees with you in most jurisdictions. You will not have the same expectation of privacy as in a private location, but most legal systems recognise that walking out your front door does not mean you automatically give up all expectation of privacy.
- jeangenie 12y agoYou are conflating two clearly distinct uses of "privacy".
- LLWM 12y agoOr maybe if you feel that this is sacrificing your right to privacy, your definition of privacy has expanded way beyond reasonable limits. It honestly reminds me of the people who complain about legalizing gay marriage as a violation of their religious freedom.