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> But the masses will probably never get to hold that controller. That's really sad.
by anon4 12y ago
> But the masses will probably never get to hold that controller.
That's really sad.
- shmerl 12y agoI'm not sure where that commenter (Qzukk) got the info. It sounds simply false. So I wouldn't really get his word for it.
- cwyers 12y agoYeah, Windows OEMs have been allowed to do pretty much whatever the hell they've wanted with the OS since before the dawn of time. Heck, does anyone remember the Packard Bell Navigator? This is old hat.
- anon4 12y agoEven if you account for Valve Time, Steam OS seems completely dead, after Valve got what they wanted from MS. And I have a hard time believing a for-profit company would invest in development of an open product just because "open and libre is better for people than closed". Companies don't exist to make the lives of people good.
- listic 12y agoFor those of us that have been living under a rock: what did Valve get from MS and exactly why did Steam OS become 'dead'?
- lmedinas 12y agoHave you read the article ? quote from article: "Let's be honest, SteamOS is done. Steam got exactly what they wanted from Microsoft and dropped it like a hot potato (so sorry, you'll never get to use that cool controller). <...> Hell, they're probably begging them to let them advertise their Geek Squad services to "optimize" the experience and install that $5 program for $100. But no, the Microsoft Experience is inviolate, the holiest of holies, eternally immutable. No matter how much hatred it gets, it Must. Not. Be. Changed . And then Alienware ships a Windows 8 PC that boots to Steam instead of Metro."
- bjackman 12y agoStill confused. What did Steam get from Microsoft?
- tormeh 12y agoThey got a pre-installed computer that booted, by default, to Steam. This is apparently a victory of some kind. The saddest kind.
- anon4 12y agoDistribution outside the Windows Store. There were rumours that the only way to distribute software would be through the Windows Store and Steam wouldn't be allowed at all.
- zanny 12y agoThat was not so much a problem in Windows 8 as it was Windows 8 being a foreshadowing of things to come. That still has not changed, unless Valve has done back room negotiations with MS to guarantee their continued functioning despite whatever circus Microsoft puts future versions of Windows though.
- cwyers 12y agoBut how is that a victory? OEMs have been allowed to put whatever shovelware they want to on PCs and have them launch at boot for forever.
- 14113 12y agoThey'd open source it because of this: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/StrategyLetterV.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/StrategyLetterV.html Valve wants to commoditize the OS market, so that the barrier to getting games working is lower. At the moment, all there is is windows and linux. Windows is bad for valve, as they lose control, and linux is bad as it has a higher technical barrier of entry. Valve needs a third way which "just works" - windows can't provide this, as it's closed source, but a stable linux distribution, with a low technical entry barrier might.
- zanny 12y ago> but a stable linux distribution, with a low technical entry barrier might. Also known as pretty much any consumer Linux distro preinstalled on a computer. I have clients who have had Ubuntu running flawlessly for over five years. Whenever a new LTS comes around it gives a popup notification and shows up in the software options to upgrade, and they do so whenever they get around to it. They have five years of security updates coming in automatically anyway, no reason to worry about that. If you do not want to get into the guts, you do not have to, unless you start out there by trying to install an OS by hand. And even in that use case, assuming you properly research your hardware support, Linux is a much more friendly experience to install and get running than buying a Windows CD and trying to install it, and then get the system into a usable state. The answer is not complicated - preinstalls. Machines running Linux, probably Ubuntu, in stores, in front of your grandmother. If she buys it (and even Unity is much easier to understand than The Windows 8 Start Menu) then she should expect it to work out of the box fine forever, updating itself in the background, with the default programs providing 99% of her needs. And that is what happens now assuming you buy from a Linux boutique like System76, Zareason, Thinkpenguin, or the redistributors of Dells / HP notebooks or Llenovo stuff in Germany and other countries that mandate an OS choice option.
- nailer 12y agoI read the Alienware 'console' box was supposed to be a Steam machine before SteamOS stopped going anywhere. Edit: actually there's four Windows-launching former SteamOS machines: - ZOTAC Zbox EN760 - iBuyPower SBX - Alienware Alpha PC console - ASUS GR8 http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/10/16/with-asus-rog-gr8-another-steam-machine-launches-without-steam-os/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/10/16/with-a...