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Your case here would be stronger if the OpenPandora website didn't open up with a video showing how their device enables you to play all the best video games of

by cwyers 12y ago

Your case here would be stronger if the OpenPandora website didn't open up with a video showing how their device enables you to play all the best video games off the major consoles from 20 years ago. That's not building your own garden, that's shoplifting from the grocery store.

ekianjo 12y ago
> that's shoplifting from the grocery store. so you don't know how to rip physical CDs from your PS1 for example ? That's not that hard... All my ISOs come from there, and you can pretty much rip rom contents from every console out there, with the right tool and hardware.
- cwyers 12y ago
  No, I mean... emulation isn't building a garden. Emulation isn't building anything. Emulation is... the kindest way of putting it is that it's preservation. You're preserving what someone else already built. Maybe you're restoring it, cleaning it up, adding value to it, but you're still relying on the thing you're building upon. My point is, it's really hard for the OpenPandora to be an alternative to the proprietary consoles so long as its sales pitch is that it can run software written for all the older proprietary consoles. You can't be an alternative to something you're wholly dependent on.
  - fit2rule 12y ago
    There is a hell of a lot more to the OpenPandora than emulation. It may be correct that they're not marketing it properly, but then again its also true that the users know whats up: http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=top http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=top
    - cwyers 12y ago
      Resort that by most downloaded: http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=dl&ipp=10 http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=dl&ipp=10 * Nintendo DS emulator * PSP emulator * Playstation emulator * Nintendo 64 emulator * Amiga 500/1200 emulator * Super Nintendo emulator * Sega Genesis emulator * MS DOS emulator * Arcade emulator * Game Boy Advanced emulator Yeah, I'd say the users know what's up. I also suspect that it's being marketed appropriately.
      - fit2rule 12y ago
        Emulators are fantastic! I don't know why you have a problem with them .. I have a mass collection of cartridges for these systems from my youth, which I have a right to access freely and legally, and I'm certainly not going to disallow my kids from the opportunity of learning what those old machines were like, since they've got the Pandora for precisely this purpose. I would say what you are trying to say is that the Pandora is not a 'consumption' device, or 'consumer'-ish enough, and I would argue that your definition of consumer and mine are widely invariate. Consumers of the Pandora Emulator ecosystem are as valid as any other - or would you rather all these carts and systems end up in the land-fill? Here's another lesson, then: computers don't get old. Their users do. For this purpose, be forever prepared to emulate/virtualize all the things!
- aaron-lebo 12y ago
  You also gotta be realistic, a lot of emulation is not what you are talking about, it is people straight up pirating software they've never bought. We can debate the ethics of that all day, but it is certainly questionable and isn't the sign of a healthy and new ecosystem.
  - fit2rule 12y ago
    Well, here is the "new" ecosystem: http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&s=new http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&s=new Its not all emulation. In fact, its a lot more like .. any Linux game that can be ported, will be ported. So there are a lot of Linux games you might be surprised in this list - among other applications too, of course. (You can't run a DAW on your Playstation..)
fit2rule 12y ago
True, I probably should have pointed out the fantastic array of software that is available for the OpenPandora in the open, public app store: http://repo.openpandora.org/ http://repo.openpandora.org/ Not all of it is emulation, but for those of us with a decent collection of legitimate ROM's, its a very valid and thriving scene. Even old architectures, being emulated again and thriving, are getting new apps in the app store. So, there's that to consider as well ..

by cwyers 12y ago

ekianjo 12y ago

> that's shoplifting from the grocery store. so you don't know how to rip physical CDs from your PS1 for example ? That's not that hard... All my ISOs come from there, and you can pretty much rip rom contents from every console out there, with the right tool and hardware.

cwyers 12y ago
No, I mean... emulation isn't building a garden. Emulation isn't building anything. Emulation is... the kindest way of putting it is that it's preservation. You're preserving what someone else already built. Maybe you're restoring it, cleaning it up, adding value to it, but you're still relying on the thing you're building upon. My point is, it's really hard for the OpenPandora to be an alternative to the proprietary consoles so long as its sales pitch is that it can run software written for all the older proprietary consoles. You can't be an alternative to something you're wholly dependent on.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  There is a hell of a lot more to the OpenPandora than emulation. It may be correct that they're not marketing it properly, but then again its also true that the users know whats up: http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=top http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=top
  - cwyers 12y ago
    Resort that by most downloaded: http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=dl&ipp=10 http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&cat=Game&s=dl&ipp=10 * Nintendo DS emulator * PSP emulator * Playstation emulator * Nintendo 64 emulator * Amiga 500/1200 emulator * Super Nintendo emulator * Sega Genesis emulator * MS DOS emulator * Arcade emulator * Game Boy Advanced emulator Yeah, I'd say the users know what's up. I also suspect that it's being marketed appropriately.
    - fit2rule 12y ago
      Emulators are fantastic! I don't know why you have a problem with them .. I have a mass collection of cartridges for these systems from my youth, which I have a right to access freely and legally, and I'm certainly not going to disallow my kids from the opportunity of learning what those old machines were like, since they've got the Pandora for precisely this purpose. I would say what you are trying to say is that the Pandora is not a 'consumption' device, or 'consumer'-ish enough, and I would argue that your definition of consumer and mine are widely invariate. Consumers of the Pandora Emulator ecosystem are as valid as any other - or would you rather all these carts and systems end up in the land-fill? Here's another lesson, then: computers don't get old. Their users do. For this purpose, be forever prepared to emulate/virtualize all the things!
aaron-lebo 12y ago
You also gotta be realistic, a lot of emulation is not what you are talking about, it is people straight up pirating software they've never bought. We can debate the ethics of that all day, but it is certainly questionable and isn't the sign of a healthy and new ecosystem.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  Well, here is the "new" ecosystem: http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&s=new http://repo.openpandora.org/?page=all&s=new Its not all emulation. In fact, its a lot more like .. any Linux game that can be ported, will be ported. So there are a lot of Linux games you might be surprised in this list - among other applications too, of course. (You can't run a DAW on your Playstation..)

fit2rule 12y ago

True, I probably should have pointed out the fantastic array of software that is available for the OpenPandora in the open, public app store: http://repo.openpandora.org/ http://repo.openpandora.org/ Not all of it is emulation, but for those of us with a decent collection of legitimate ROM's, its a very valid and thriving scene. Even old architectures, being emulated again and thriving, are getting new apps in the app store. So, there's that to consider as well ..