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Thread-shitting for Christ is not as awesome as you think it is. Doing this as a systematic project is bringing down the value of HN a tiny little bit with eve

by Luc 12y ago

Thread-shitting for Christ is not as awesome as you think it is. Doing this as a systematic project is bringing down the value of HN a tiny little bit with every one of your posts.

michaelsbradley 12y ago
One of the things people do when discussing HN topics is share other resources that they feel have some bearing on the topic at hand; it also seems to be a common practice to offer alternative perspectives, complementary ideas and criticisms related to the OP or comments on it. I do my best to make sure that all my comments, whatever their nature, follow that pattern. So, no, I'm not trolling, or "thread shitting", or anything along those lines. If I didn't think my comments were relevant in some way, I wouldn't make them -- that's just basic HN etiquette. If you don't like what I have to say or think I am in fact trolling, by all means downvote my comments. Also, if my comments really bother you, feel free to implement a little script that filters them from view. You could even make it general purpose, put it up on GitHub and submit it to HN.
- Luc 12y ago
  > One of the things people do when discussing HN topics is share other resources that they feel have some bearing on the topic at hand; it also seems to be a common practice to offer alternative perspectives, complementary ideas and criticisms related to the OP or comments on it. However, one of the things most people here don't do is use HN as a convenient platform to push their beliefs at every possible occasion. > feel free to implement a little script that filters them from view. No. You are the one with the annoying, spamming behaviour. Don't tell me to put up a spam filter. Stop spamming instead.
  - geofft 12y ago
    > However, one of the things most people here don't do is use HN as a convenient platform to push their beliefs at every possible occasion. I find that claim implausible... I see a lot of beliefs being pushed, like "Startup culture is great" or "Startup culture is awful" or "Those people should have a better security response story" or "Don't use tables for layout" or "MAC-then-encrypt is a mistake". I would expect that most people have pushed a belief one time or another. What I don't see a lot of is arguments about what is or isn't on-topic. That's what the downvote button is for, and it has a built-in mechanism to see if anyone else agrees with you.
    - Luc 12y ago
      Perhaps I wasn't 100% clear. 'Pushing beliefs' is, I'm quite sure, commonly understood to be about religious beliefs, which are of a different class than 'belief' in CSS being superior to HTML tables. Proselytism on HN should not be okay. This is not something you'd want to leave to up and down votes, in my opinion.
      - arkj 12y ago
        We all "push" beliefs, don't we? what else can humans do? After all michaelsbradley didn't ask you to be a christian or something like that; he just pointed out another resource, those who wish to read it may do so, there is no need to pick on him for this. Now you might say I'm "pushing" my belief, maybe rightly. In a sense all comments are at some deeper level are 'beliefs'. Personally I've found links to "different" views on HN threads pretty interesting, I may not buy the argument, but it's good to know.
        Luc 12y ago
        > We all "push" beliefs, don't we? what else can humans do? Just like the previous poster, you water down what I meant by 'pushing' and 'belief' so it becomes downright reasonable to do it. This is a systematic approach by him to advocate his religion every opportunity he gets.

by Luc 12y ago

Thread-shitting for Christ is not as awesome as you think it is. Doing this as a systematic project is bringing down the value of HN a tiny little bit with every one of your posts.

michaelsbradley 12y ago

One of the things people do when discussing HN topics is share other resources that they feel have some bearing on the topic at hand; it also seems to be a common practice to offer alternative perspectives, complementary ideas and criticisms related to the OP or comments on it. I do my best to make sure that all my comments, whatever their nature, follow that pattern. So, no, I'm not trolling, or "thread shitting", or anything along those lines. If I didn't think my comments were relevant in some way, I wouldn't make them -- that's just basic HN etiquette. If you don't like what I have to say or think I am in fact trolling, by all means downvote my comments. Also, if my comments really bother you, feel free to implement a little script that filters them from view. You could even make it general purpose, put it up on GitHub and submit it to HN.

Luc 12y ago
> One of the things people do when discussing HN topics is share other resources that they feel have some bearing on the topic at hand; it also seems to be a common practice to offer alternative perspectives, complementary ideas and criticisms related to the OP or comments on it. However, one of the things most people here don't do is use HN as a convenient platform to push their beliefs at every possible occasion. > feel free to implement a little script that filters them from view. No. You are the one with the annoying, spamming behaviour. Don't tell me to put up a spam filter. Stop spamming instead.
- geofft 12y ago
  > However, one of the things most people here don't do is use HN as a convenient platform to push their beliefs at every possible occasion. I find that claim implausible... I see a lot of beliefs being pushed, like "Startup culture is great" or "Startup culture is awful" or "Those people should have a better security response story" or "Don't use tables for layout" or "MAC-then-encrypt is a mistake". I would expect that most people have pushed a belief one time or another. What I don't see a lot of is arguments about what is or isn't on-topic. That's what the downvote button is for, and it has a built-in mechanism to see if anyone else agrees with you.
  - Luc 12y ago
    Perhaps I wasn't 100% clear. 'Pushing beliefs' is, I'm quite sure, commonly understood to be about religious beliefs, which are of a different class than 'belief' in CSS being superior to HTML tables. Proselytism on HN should not be okay. This is not something you'd want to leave to up and down votes, in my opinion.
    - arkj 12y ago
      We all "push" beliefs, don't we? what else can humans do? After all michaelsbradley didn't ask you to be a christian or something like that; he just pointed out another resource, those who wish to read it may do so, there is no need to pick on him for this. Now you might say I'm "pushing" my belief, maybe rightly. In a sense all comments are at some deeper level are 'beliefs'. Personally I've found links to "different" views on HN threads pretty interesting, I may not buy the argument, but it's good to know.
      - Luc 12y ago
        > We all "push" beliefs, don't we? what else can humans do? Just like the previous poster, you water down what I meant by 'pushing' and 'belief' so it becomes downright reasonable to do it. This is a systematic approach by him to advocate his religion every opportunity he gets.