yeah, but new engineers don't have the same amount of stock options that the earlier ones. I have been in a startup, where the company had matured some, and th

yeah, but new engineers don't have the same amount of stock options that the earlier ones. I have been in a startup, where the company had matured some, and the options given to new people were almost irrevelant, while the people that had higher positions, had been there longer, and would push people to work hard, b/c they had the incentive to do so. People realized this, that they were working startup hours, but not getting options, or a big corp pay either, and getting the shaft. A lot of employees and managers just left. I went through 6 different managers in one year. It got ridiculous, and damaging to the morale.