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I'm sorry for picking this out from an otherwise great article (though I disagree on a few other minor points), but I can't let this slide: > That said: is rac
by srem 12y ago
I'm sorry for picking this out from an otherwise great article (though I disagree on a few other minor points), but I can't let this slide:
> That said: is racism a bigger problem in Japan than e.g. in the United States? Oh, yes. Unquestionably.
I disagree. I disagree so very much I don't know if I can even put it into words.
Being the "wrong" race in the US can be a matter of life and death. It's not even fair to compare racism on that level to the kind that exists in Japan. Do I really need to talk about how pervasive racism is in the US? And how extreme it is? Pick your poison: income, education, prison sentences, violence, etc. This should be common knowledge by now. Please, please don't downplay it. It's huge.
It's interesting nonetheless. You really can see a difference between whites and non-whites when they talk about racism in Japan. There's a reason why there's such a difference of opinion. Growing up having the race advantage all your life and never giving it much thought, only to move to country where it no longer applies is a huge shock to many people.
Really. Ask non-whites what they think about racism in Japan. I think you'll find that most people will tell a very different story. It's usually something along the lines of, "The amount of ignorance is astounding sometimes, but I haven't really felt hatred/hostility directed towards me because of my race, which is refreshing." The ignorance is certainly bad, though also isn't all that surprising if you've had no meaningful conversations with someone of a particular race all your life.
Yes, if you're talking about anti-discriminatory laws, there's a world of difference. They're almost non-existent in Japan. Anti-discriminatory laws didn't come about in the US overnight. A lot of people suffered and fought a long war before we even saw a positive change. Again, not exactly fair to compare the two countries here. It doesn't make it right, but let's put it in perspective please. The US has a very, very dark history regarding race, and it's not even close to being over.
There's also one other important difference in my opinion. In the US, you're dealing with extremes on both sides. People who absolutely abhor you for being a certain race or having a certain sexual orientation, and others who will loudly defend your rights and speak out when they see injustice. In Japan, you don't have much of either. Which is worse I guess depends on your perspective... but it shouldn't be too surprising why a lot of people think the former is worse. Hostility is a very difficult thing to deal with.
- asdfologist 12y agoThis is so wrong I don't know where to start. Have you lived as a non-white minority in both Japan and the US? I have, and so have many friends and family. We can unanimously attest that we're far better treated in the US than Japan. But let's put aside personal anecdotes for a second. In the US, how many minorities serve as executives of large companies? The number of black, Indian, etc executives in a company like Google probably outnumber what you'd see in all Japanese companies combined. How many minorities serve in the US government? How many serve in the Japanese government? How many minorities do you see working in the US media? What about Japan? I can go on all day.
- jiggy2011 12y agoI don't think that comparing the number of black CEOs in both countries is necessarily a good benchmark of the experiences of black people in general. This is further confounded by the fact that all ethnic minorities are a much lower % of the Japanese population than they are in the US.
- asdfologist 12y agoIt's funny you mention that, because the low percentage of ethnic minorities in Japan is a direct consequence of their famously restrictive immigration policy... which even further proves the point. And of course, no benchmark is perfect. So why not provide a better one and compare the US and Japan using your own benchmark? I'd love to hear your results.
- teacup50 12y agoRestrictive immigration policy is a form of cultural isolationism, but not necessarily racism.
- jiggy2011 12y agoJapan has a very large population and appears to value cultural conformity very highly, it doesn't necessarily imply racism to keep immigration low. There is no single good metric for racism because it is complicated but the average person is probably more concerned about whether they are likely to become a victim of crime because of their race than whether they could theoretically become CEO of a megacorp.