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Really sad for his family and friends. But, what could be the reason for his depression?

by LaFolle 12y ago

BruceM 12y ago
Depression needs no reason.
- LaFolle 12y ago
  I doubt that. If there is no reason, it can't be cured. But there are cases of depression being cured, so there has to be a reason for depression.
  - smt88 12y ago
    I try to be polite and respectful when I disagree on HN, but you are honestly an ass. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just ignorant and not an idiot. When you asked for a "reason" for depression, you clearly implied a human cause. You may even have implied that he just "felt bad" about something that happened to him. That is wrong to the point of being offensive. You wouldn't say, "Why did he get brain cancer?" or "Why does she have Parkinson's?" Depression is an illness. It's not considered curable, though it is highly treatable for some people. And the curability of something doesn't dictate a "reason" or lack of one. Illness is often senseless and random, especially something with a genetic factor such as depression.
    - LaFolle 12y ago
      Generally what i have seen is that people get depressed because of some painful event which happened in their lives. Like, you get depressed when your partner leaves you, or you're fired from a job or death of a loved one. So, i haven't seen anyone getting depressed without any painful emotion. Maybe I am highly wrong in that. Lets say, I clear my ignorance by believing/understanding that depression is an illness without any reason. But, making a statement like "depression needs no reason" ain't correct either. Both possibilities exist. If I may rephrase, I was just curious about the reason, if it existed, why Dan Ha was depressed.
      - berdario 12y ago
        That is kind of the pop culture view of depression. Depression is a quite interesting illness, you might want to have a look at this: Http://youtube.com/watch?v=TIcf-2AFHgw
      - DanBC 12y ago
        > Like, you get depressed when your partner leaves you, or you're fired from a job or death of a loved one. So, i haven't seen anyone getting depressed without any painful emotion. Maybe I am highly wrong in that. There are normal emotions - such as as grief - that occur after a painful event. If those feelings don't dissipate over time; if they continue to interfere with day to day living; then you might want to call that "reactive depression". But you do not need a traumatic event to suffer depression and it's more common to not have any one specific event. > I was just curious about the reason, That's none of your business. It's voyeuristic and intrusive.
      - __david__ 12y ago
        > So, i haven't seen anyone getting depressed without any painful emotion. Maybe I am highly wrong in that. Yes, you are wrong, though it is slightly confusing. We use the term "depressed" in more than one way. One way is the way you used it, which is more colloquial and means "down in the dumps." The other is clinical depression [1], which is probably what smt88 is talking about. People often get touchy about depression (as you can see by the downvotes and by smt88's sharp response to your questions) because it is very frustrating to the clinically depressed when non-clinically depressed people tell them to "just cheer up" or look for some easy reason, when such a thing just doesn't exist. Incidentally, I didn't see anything about depression in the article. Why did you ask in the first place? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression
        LaFolle 12y ago
        When I mentioned "depressed", i did mean the former meaning you gave as that is what I only knew. Yes, definitely, people do get touchy. I apologize to smt88 if I offended him, though it was never my intention.

Really sad for his family and friends. But, what could be the reason for his depression?

by LaFolle 12y ago

Really sad for his family and friends. But, what could be the reason for his depression?

BruceM 12y ago

Depression needs no reason.

LaFolle 12y ago
I doubt that. If there is no reason, it can't be cured. But there are cases of depression being cured, so there has to be a reason for depression.
- smt88 12y ago
  I try to be polite and respectful when I disagree on HN, but you are honestly an ass. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just ignorant and not an idiot. When you asked for a "reason" for depression, you clearly implied a human cause. You may even have implied that he just "felt bad" about something that happened to him. That is wrong to the point of being offensive. You wouldn't say, "Why did he get brain cancer?" or "Why does she have Parkinson's?" Depression is an illness. It's not considered curable, though it is highly treatable for some people. And the curability of something doesn't dictate a "reason" or lack of one. Illness is often senseless and random, especially something with a genetic factor such as depression.
  - LaFolle 12y ago
    Generally what i have seen is that people get depressed because of some painful event which happened in their lives. Like, you get depressed when your partner leaves you, or you're fired from a job or death of a loved one. So, i haven't seen anyone getting depressed without any painful emotion. Maybe I am highly wrong in that. Lets say, I clear my ignorance by believing/understanding that depression is an illness without any reason. But, making a statement like "depression needs no reason" ain't correct either. Both possibilities exist. If I may rephrase, I was just curious about the reason, if it existed, why Dan Ha was depressed.
    - berdario 12y ago
      That is kind of the pop culture view of depression. Depression is a quite interesting illness, you might want to have a look at this: Http://youtube.com/watch?v=TIcf-2AFHgw
    - DanBC 12y ago
      > Like, you get depressed when your partner leaves you, or you're fired from a job or death of a loved one. So, i haven't seen anyone getting depressed without any painful emotion. Maybe I am highly wrong in that. There are normal emotions - such as as grief - that occur after a painful event. If those feelings don't dissipate over time; if they continue to interfere with day to day living; then you might want to call that "reactive depression". But you do not need a traumatic event to suffer depression and it's more common to not have any one specific event. > I was just curious about the reason, That's none of your business. It's voyeuristic and intrusive.
    - __david__ 12y ago
      > So, i haven't seen anyone getting depressed without any painful emotion. Maybe I am highly wrong in that. Yes, you are wrong, though it is slightly confusing. We use the term "depressed" in more than one way. One way is the way you used it, which is more colloquial and means "down in the dumps." The other is clinical depression [1], which is probably what smt88 is talking about. People often get touchy about depression (as you can see by the downvotes and by smt88's sharp response to your questions) because it is very frustrating to the clinically depressed when non-clinically depressed people tell them to "just cheer up" or look for some easy reason, when such a thing just doesn't exist. Incidentally, I didn't see anything about depression in the article. Why did you ask in the first place? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression
      - LaFolle 12y ago
        When I mentioned "depressed", i did mean the former meaning you gave as that is what I only knew. Yes, definitely, people do get touchy. I apologize to smt88 if I offended him, though it was never my intention.