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This is indeed a non-educated opinion. Please don't spread FUD. Lithium-ion batteries are perfectly safe to regen. You need to monitor the cell and pack volta

by jgable 12y ago

This is indeed a non-educated opinion. Please don't spread FUD. Lithium-ion batteries are perfectly safe to regen. You need to monitor the cell and pack voltages and limit regen under certain conditions, but it's well understood how to do this. Any electric vehicle with a lithium-ion battery (and there are millions of them, from skateboards and scooters to cars and trucks) does regen braking. Without regen, you lose one of the most compelling advantages of having an electric vehicle in the first place. In general, supercapacitors do have much better power density than batteries, but much worse energy density, making them impractical for vehicles at this point in time. There's a reason the vast majority of electric vehicles today use lithium-ion batteries. Disclaimer: I was formerly a controls and systems engineer for a hybrid-electric vehicle company.

krasin 12y ago
What you are saying (please, correct me, if I am wrong again), is that the Li-Ion batteries are unstable, but you can keep them safe (no over-current, no over-charge, no over-heat). That's fine. After all, multirotors are also unstable, but they fly pretty good. What I don't know (and where I might be totally wrong), is how bad are current supercapacitors in energy density aspect. The wiki page about Supercapacitors [1] mention it's 10% of Li-Ion, but I have heard about the supercapacitors which are 25% of Li-Ion (not sure, if they are available on the marker, [2]). With 25% of Li-Ion, the supercapacitors for regen would be a better choice than the batteries (see the reasons in my first message). At 10%, you're correct. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor 2. http://www.technologyreview.com/view/521651/graphene-supercapacitors-ready-for-electric-vehicle-energy-storage-say-korean-engineers/ http://www.technologyreview.com/view/521651/graphene-superca...

by jgable 12y ago

krasin 12y ago

What you are saying (please, correct me, if I am wrong again), is that the Li-Ion batteries are unstable, but you can keep them safe (no over-current, no over-charge, no over-heat). That's fine. After all, multirotors are also unstable, but they fly pretty good. What I don't know (and where I might be totally wrong), is how bad are current supercapacitors in energy density aspect. The wiki page about Supercapacitors [1] mention it's 10% of Li-Ion, but I have heard about the supercapacitors which are 25% of Li-Ion (not sure, if they are available on the marker, [2]). With 25% of Li-Ion, the supercapacitors for regen would be a better choice than the batteries (see the reasons in my first message). At 10%, you're correct. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor 2. http://www.technologyreview.com/view/521651/graphene-supercapacitors-ready-for-electric-vehicle-energy-storage-say-korean-engineers/ http://www.technologyreview.com/view/521651/graphene-superca...